Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[snowbird]

So, I know that the black coppers are not supposed to have a green sheen to them, but all of mine do. There is no mossiness and they have a good amount of copper, I am just not sure how to breed out the green sheen.

Who said the BC were not supposed to have the green sheen ?

 

[chasehope]

I thought that I had read that on here somewhere?

 

[chicken pickin]

I think it may be the purple sheen you don't want.

 

[snowbird]

I thought that I had read that on here somewhere?

When the BC has purple sheen instead of green it is signaling that the genetics are tainted.

 

[chasehope]

okay, thank you for clarifying!!! I was wondering how the heck I was gonna get rid of it, and its so pretty I didn't think I wanted to! Glad to know my girls are on the right track!

 

[Zanna]

okay, thank you for clarifying!!! I was wondering how the heck I was gonna get rid of it, and its so pretty I didn't think I wanted to! Glad to know my girls are on the right track!

I think that Marquisella had said that they should not have purple or green sheen, not sure though. You may have read it here if I recall correctly. I breed forward with green sheen but not with purple and have heard others do/say the same

 

[Ihilani Coffee]

Is it possible for a POL pullet to get eggbound on the first egg? I have a BCM from a nice line that is walking like a duck and pretty sure I feel an egg in there. She is eating/drinking/foraging but laying down a lot and has the look of a Marans Runner DuckHen. I have gently massaged her (with expert LMT hands) and tried to shift things but not helping. She walks more normally after I have massaged but still not passing the egg. What is everyone's experience with the warm sitzbath method? Sure don't want to lose her, and thinking it's time for a chicken-in-the-bathtub for real.

Later...Two days of calcium orally, two days of olive oil...nada. She had a spa day today with a relaxing soak and pellet stove fan-dry (I thought that would be less stressful than the noisy blowdryer). No egg. I did carefully examine her with one finger and can feel the hard egg clearly but it is through a live membrane...like I'm feeling the shell gland/uterus. I'm going to try again and see if I can find my way to the actual eggshell. Not sure I can feel this with a finger cot on or if I'll have to scrub up. How probable is it that she simply has an incomplete (blind) reproductive system? It happens in other species.

It was a lot easier when I just had chickens. Fed them. Got eggs.

 

[Ihilani Coffee]

Mossy is what you see on the last picture. It can be a small amount of Brown or it can be a lot. Usually in the wings and back, in the females it can also be over the entire body. Some of the Mossy chicks will be males and will have way too much brown in the breast area.

Go to my profile page and you will see two 1/2 BC and 1/2 wheaten that have Mossy going on. Just click on the picture to enlarge. I made this mating just to show everyone what happens when you mix these two colors.

wOw. I won't ever forget what "mossy" means after viewing those photos. Mahalo for posting them! The pullet feathering looks very much like a Welsummer X BCM pairing with the lacing/edging on the whole body like that.

 

[Runawaylobster]

I think that Marquisella had said that they should not have purple or green sheen, not sure though. You may have read it here if I recall correctly. I breed forward with green sheen but not with purple and have heard others do/say the same

ditto

 

[Brada Puhi]

Aloha,

I love that green sheen. I call my gurl, "Wahine'ōma'o" - Greenlady. Even though sheʻs black, of course.

Kden, Puhi