Black sexlinks/Red sexlinks

[cluckrpeck]

Black sex links are a cross of any non barred, non white rooster over a barred hen. Barring in chickens works such that a female only carries one copy of the barring gene, and she is only able to pass it to her male offspring, so any time she is bred with a rooster that is not barred (he would pass barring to female offspring so that would not work) and not dominant white (the chick would hatch white so, though still technically sex linked, it would be useless since you couldn't see the barring) only her male offspring are barred, which gives them the spot on the head. Female offspring are not barred and do not have the spot on the head, making them easy to tell apart from males when they hatch. Black colored barred females are most often used in the cross because the black color is the easiest color to see the spot on.

Generally, hatcheries use barred Plymouth rock females as the barred hen in their cross, and the roosters can really be any breed that is not barred or white. When two sex links are bred together, the sex linking does not work because the female is not barred and male is, which is the opposite of what you'd want for sex links. So offspring hatched are pretty mutts that will have traits from the breeds that were originally used to create the sex link parents. They will probably be good layers.

Sorry if this is at all confusing, and if you want an explanation of what a red sex link is, I can give that too, but they're more complicated and the same principles apply, when bred together the chicks exhibit a mix of the traits of the original breeds used to create the sex link parents.

So if I'm reading this correctly, if I cross my RIR roo with a BSL, the chicks would be BSL since roo is non barred? Sorry, it's a bit confusing to me.

 

[Michael OShay]

So if I'm reading this correctly, if I cross my RIR roo with a BSL, the chicks would be BSL since roo is non barred? Sorry, it's a bit confusing to me.

No, an RIR rooster crossed with a BSL hen will not produce Black Sex Link offspring as BSL hens are not barred. The chicks of an RIR rooster X BSL hen cannot be sexed by color. To produce Black Sex Link offspring you have to use a barred hen such as a Barred Rock hen, Dominique hen, Cuckoo Marans hen, etc. If you cross your RIR rooster with one of these barred hens, the male chicks will be black with a white spot on top of the head but the female chicks will not have the white spot.

 

[GhettoRoo]

There is some info about sex links.

 

[GhettoRoo]

The info there https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/261208/sex-linked-information is too much for me, cant translate language 100%, so, even some words. S+/- bla, bla.
I need all with photos.

ok, sex links is sex links.
But if im interested in just to make laying machine? Making chicks in home, it changes nothing to me if I know in first day which gender is which.
Sex links are the best layers. Around 350 eggs in first year.

Im interested in non-sex link laying machines.

From pure breeds im gonna have, RIR, Australorp, Wyandotte Roosters.
Oldest purebreeds are 2 months old. So, I have all winter to find out which ones to mix.
Mixing whatever with whatever should be good too, no stress, pretty chicks.
But aiming for better layers, even +50 eggs from hen per year, if I select right.

 

[jeffkerle65]

All hybrids will throw back to the original blood strain in one way or another. Its just the way the genes run. Its the same with humans genes. People say Gee he looks like his great uncle. If you breed in the right sequence you can breed back to the original blood strain. This is done by breeding first cousins with third & fifth cousins & so on, but not in humans. Each clutch of eggs are brothers & sisters. The next clutch are considered as cousins. That is how the Japanese bred different colours with the budgerigars, they originally are green & yellow in the wild here in Australia.

 

[GhettoRoo]

All hybrids will throw back to the original blood strain in one way or another. Its just the way the genes run. Its the same with humans genes. People say Gee he looks like his great uncle. If you breed in the right sequence you can breed back to the original blood strain. This is done by breeding first cousins with third & fifth cousins & so on, but not in humans. Each clutch of eggs are brothers & sisters. The next clutch are considered as cousins. That is how the Japanese bred different colours with the budgerigars, they originally are green & yellow in the wild here in Australia.

Ya. This make sence. This is why I tried to get as much breeds as I could. So im gonna make my mixes. Select two pretty chickens, roo and hen, which in some day could born in same look and try to mix em up.

 

[cluckrpeck]

No, an RIR rooster crossed with a BSL hen will not produce Black Sex Link offspring as BSL hens are not barred. The chicks of an RIR rooster X BSL hen cannot be sexed by color. To produce Black Sex Link offspring you have to use a barred hen such as a Barred Rock hen, Dominique hen, Cuckoo Marans hen, etc. If you cross your RIR rooster with one of these barred hens, the male chicks will be black with a white spot on top of the head but the female chicks will not have the white spot.

So if I cross my RIR roo with BSL hen, it could turn out to be RIR chicks (assuming she was created by RIR roo) since hen does not carry the barred gene? Basically figure on whatever roo was used to make her against the the,current roo?

 

[junebuggena]

You could get some red chicks, but the extended black genes from the barred grandmother are dominant. Some of the chicks would look like your black sexlink hens. But you won't be able to tell males from females until they are older.

 

[Michael OShay]

You could get some red chicks, but the extended black genes from the barred grandmother are dominant. Some of the chicks would look like your black sexlink hens. But you won't be able to tell males from females until they are older.

X2 on the above. As I stated in my post, the chicks will not be sex linked. If you cross your RIR rooster with a BSL hen, you will not be able to tell the male chicks from the female chicks by color when they hatch.

 

[donrae]

So if I cross my RIR roo with BSL hen, it could turn out to be RIR chicks (assuming she was created by RIR roo) since hen does not carry the barred gene? Basically figure on whatever roo was used to make her against the the,current roo?

The only way to get a RIR chick is to breed two RIR parents. You can't breed any two animals of different breeds and make a purebred offspring. Pure bred means both parents were the same breed.

You could possibly get red chicks, but there's tons more to a breed than color.