blood ring or blind

[alisan]

X2 enola!! Especially the one beady eye showing!!! Lovely bird though like the colour.

Lol she had one eye closed. She's only 5 weeks old

 

[alisan]

If one of mine hatches i will be thrilled but i really hope they both do because i would hate to raise it alone.  I have heard the saying, dont count your chickens before they hatch but it never became more true to me til i started raising them , LOL

Granny I'm totally bummed out my self. Don't know what happened everyone looked good on day 18 but nothing and I mean nothing out of 45 eggs hatched. I opened them and they ALL had fully formed dead chicks inside. None even pipped the membrane? ?? What in the world could have happened? !! I'm just sick

 

[alisan]

 All of them ? wow, if only. lol yes, the polish are the same time as the serama but they are much bigger chicks . i think they will be too big to stay together. all my big eggs that are good are polish except one brown. . no plans of putting any more in after this and today is day 11 so half way. I cant have full blooded chicken because i cant decide who i like the best. go for one of every thing. hahaa

I had only one polish hatch out of my November batch and I put her in with the seramas and she's done just fine...as matter of fact seramas get under her to sleep lol

 

[Granny Hatchet]

what was your humidity Alisen? and were they overdue? incubator issues and weak parent stock are all that come to mind for me. sorry for your loss

 

[PD-Riverman]

Granny I'm totally bummed out my self. Don't know what happened everyone looked good on day 18 but nothing and I mean nothing out of 45 eggs hatched. I opened them and they ALL had fully formed dead chicks inside. None even pipped the membrane? ?? What in the world could have happened? !! I'm just sick

Alisan, I probably could look it up but don't have time-----what Kind of incubator were you using?

 

[Yorkshire Coop]

Granny I'm totally bummed out my self. Don't know what happened everyone looked good on day 18 but nothing and I mean nothing out of 45 eggs hatched. I opened them and they ALL had fully formed dead chicks inside. None even pipped the membrane? ?? What in the world could have happened? !! I'm just sick

I'm so sorry alisan that your chicks didn't make it

This is an extract from an excellent article in the learning centre

Day 18-21 - Dead embryo

- Incorrect incubation temperature, humidity, turning of eggs (during earlier stage of incubation), ventilation.
- Contamination.
- Eggs chilled too severely.
- Nutritional deficiencies.
- Embryonic malposition.
- Embryo failed to switch to lung respiration and other intra-embryonic circulation.
- Hereditary, lethal genes, abnormal chromosomes.
- Twins - double yolk egg development.
- Incubator opened too much during pipping and hatching.
- Poor shell quality.
- Disease in breeder flock.

Full term embryo, did not pip, dead in shell. Eggtopsy shows yolk sac not absorbed, or only partially absorbed. May be some residual albumen (egg white).

- Inadequate turning during incubation, especially during the first week, resulting in decreased embryonic membrane development and nutrient absorption.
- Humidity too high during incubation, or after lockdown.
- Incubator temperature too low, or too high.
- Nutritional deficiencies.
- Hereditary.
- Disease in the breeder flock.
- Eggs stored too long prior to setting.
- Inadequate ventilation.

 

[Yorkshire Coop]

Disaster Disaster

I've just checked 4 more of the eggs from the blue splash pen and only 1 was fertile. Plus it was a small egg so a new layer I'm guessing. Quite sure the other 3 eggs I checked were from the ones who have been laying longer.

But my disaster is I've just caught one of blue splashes hens in with the silver lace roo!! It's flown over the fence which I've never seen them do them before. So now my dilemma is the silver lace roo is the half brother of these hens. This hatch is going to be a disaster!! How long has this hen or hens being popping over to the silver roo? And then back to their own pen? I now don't know if my blue splash is really doing his job?
I'm making modifications now to the pens to stop this and have a new one under construction to totally seperate them.
Should I pull these eggs out of the incubator? I don't want chicks that have come from related parent stock that's just opening a can of worms right?

I'm having a crisis and don't know what to do

 

[Granny Hatchet]

surly thats not the first time of you hearing of the male gender "jumping the fence" ? It is a too familiar phrase here. unless you dont want what the babies would look like, I wouldnt cull them. some breed full brother and sister. I wouldnt if i knew but It happens . dont mean anything really in the chicken world. They are polish, its not like we are talking Einstein here any way . I think turn about is fair play. hahaaa Some times a girl wants what a girl wants.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

I see the fertile egg in the lower right but i cant see on the other eggs the white spot at all ? there not upside down are they ? my eyes are not that great .

 

[Yorkshire Coop]

Thanks granny! I have heard of sneaky Roos jumping the fence for the grass that is always greener on the other side! It may be my OCD clicking in and that I like things just right but hopefully with the modifications my mind will be at ease.
Obviously this girl decided the frizzle roo was a far more attractive option than the blue splash