BLOODY PROLAPSED VENT!!

[Waldorfeggstoria]

Unfortunately AFTER following advise from various boards I applied prep H on a couple of my birds but then wondered about the safety of the eggs. After further research and phone calls I now have been told that this goes systemic and would affect the eggs. Since it is not made for chickens it is unknown how long it remains in their system. It is not safe for human ingestion. I was advised a minimum of 15 days of egg discarding. Even then it is an unknown. If other birds pecked at this area they too would be affected and thus all layer eggs need to be discarded.
I really wish I had thought this through and investigated more before applying. Has anyone else received additional information??

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Unfortunately AFTER following advise from various boards I applied prep H on a couple of my birds but then wondered about the safety of the eggs. After further research and phone calls I now have been told that this goes systemic and would affect the eggs. Since it is not made for chickens it is unknown how long it remains in their system. It is not safe for human ingestion. I was advised a minimum of 15 days of egg discarding. Even then it is an unknown. If other birds pecked at this area they too would be affected and thus all layer eggs need to be discarded.
I really wish I had thought this through and investigated more before applying. Has anyone else received additional information??

Great! Can you share the research and who you spoke with on the phone (vet/ag agent, etc.) that led you to find that this goes systemic and affects the eggs?

Did the PrepH help your bird's prolapse is she doing o.k.?

 

[azygous]

Yes, please show us what you've learned about Preparation H and eggs. I haven't been able to find a single thing about this topic as it would relate to egg withdrawal.

The two active ingredients in Prep H are a decongestant and a mild pain reliever. Unless you really lathered it on, the minute amounts shouldn't be an issue as far as I can see.

 

[Waldorfeggstoria]

Unfortunately AFTER following advise from various boards I applied prep H on a couple of my birds but then wondered about the safety of the eggs. After further research and phone calls I now have been told that this goes systemic and would affect the eggs. Since it is not made for chickens it is unknown how long it remains in their system. It is not safe for human ingestion. I was advised a minimum of 15 days of egg discarding. Even then it is an unknown. If other birds pecked at this area they too would be affected and thus all layer eggs need to be discarded.
I really wish I had thought this through and investigated more before applying. Has anyone else received additional information??
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Great! Can you share the research and who you spoke with on the phone (vet/ag agent, etc.) that led you to find that this goes systemic and affects the eggs?

Did the PrepH help your bird's prolapse is she doing o.k.?

I read so much from various places that I am not sure however below is a link that shows it’s systemic which makes sense when you think that it has to shrink blood vessels. My pharmacist also agreed said that because not prescribed for chickens that it would be a concern for the eggs because it is systemic and it is an unknown how long it remains in the chickens systems. My vet felt it is an unknown and I spoke with a vet(bird speciality)professor at VA Tech who also disagrees with using Prep H and said at least 2 weeks of egg discarding. She said died could be tumor, calcium deficiency, mites, viruses etc so many different causes.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/phenylephrine
Few of us can pursue a vet for our birds. I am watching my girls. Currently they are able to retract the prolapse. I plan on using a tbsp of mother vinegar in a plastic waterer treatment. I have done epsom soaks, I treated for mites (using psp)and cleaned out everything again. sprinkled some DE. I am giving mealworms to boost calcium and ordered Big Ole Bird poultry probiotic from amazon as my sister recommended. I am hoping these things will boost my girls immune system. I am a novice trying to learn.

 

[azygous]

For a while now, we have been recommending against using Preparation H on chickens. Instead, we suggest using, in minimal amounts, hydrocortisone cream which is a steroid and has no pain relievers or decongestants. It is also metabolized systemically, but using it sparingly should not be a problem. (But then, neither should Prep H if used judiciously.)

The concern about any of these substances getting into the eggs is if someone consumes the eggs that has health issues that could be triggered adversely if these compounds circulate in their bodies. For example, people with cardiac issues and high blood pressure are warned to avoid decongestants of the family of drugs that include Sudafed and Phenyleprine.

It's wise to observe a period of egg withdrawal when treating a chicken using any compounds that might aggravate health issues of people who may consume those eggs such as antibiotic allergies and what I mentioned about decongestants. It's just prudent and responsible.

 

[Waldorfeggstoria]

I read so much from various places that I am not sure however below is a link that shows it’s systemic which makes sense when you think that it has to shrink blood vessels. My pharmacist also agreed said that because not prescribed for chickens that it would be a concern for the eggs because it is systemic and it is an unknown how long it remains in the chickens systems. My vet felt it is an unknown and I spoke with a vet(bird speciality)professor at VA Tech who also disagrees with using Prep H and said at least 2 weeks of egg discarding. She said died could be tumor, calcium deficiency, mites, viruses etc so many different causes.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/phenylephrine
Few of us can pursue a vet for our birds. I am watching my girls. Currently they are able to retract the prolapse. I plan on using a tbsp of mother vinegar in a plastic waterer treatment. I have done epsom soaks, I treated for mites (using psp)and cleaned out everything again. sprinkled some DE. I am giving mealworms to boost calcium and ordered Big Ole Bird poultry probiotic from amazon as my sister recommended. I am hoping these things will boost my girls immune system. I am a novice trying to learn.

I appreciate your input!

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Few of us can pursue a vet for our birds. I am watching my girls. Currently they are able to retract the prolapse.

I am giving mealworms to boost calcium and ordered Big Ole Bird poultry probiotic

You mention "they" are able to retract the prolapse? You have more than one hen that is prolapsing?

I've never heard of using mealworms to boost calcium? Perhaps you mean Protein?
What do you normally feed your chickens and how old are they?

Oyster shell provided free choice is commonly used for Calcium.

 

[Waldorfeggstoria]

You mention "they" are able to retract the prolapse? You have more than one hen that is prolapsing?

I've never heard of using mealworms to boost calcium? Perhaps you mean Protein?
What do you normally feed your chickens and how old are they?

Oyster shell provided free choice is commonly used for Calcium.

Yes unfortunately two are having some prolapse. I am quite sad about that and I don’t know why. Yes I’m sorry meal worms are for protein and I do provide oyster shell available at all times. I was using DuMor laying pellets and now use laying Pellets from Southern States (as used by several people I know). My hens are right at 2 years old. This molting season has been terrible on them. This is their environment. I have 10 hens (different breeds) and 1 small Frizzle rooster. I went to tractor supply tonight and purchased a bag of Nature wise Feather Fixer. I’m not saying this will help prolapse but I’m doing anything I can think of to boost their health. It is hard to see their health compromised.

 

[Waldorfeggstoria]

Just updating that so far my chickens are looking better! No prolapse, feathers slowly returning.

Hoping for the good health if anyone reading this during these challenging times.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Just updating that so far my chickens are looking better! No prolapse, feathers slowly returning.

Hoping for the good health if anyone reading this during these challenging times.

Glad they are doing better! Thank you for the update.

I wish you well too