BLUE-AMERAUCANA eggs not all blue

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by d73, Oct 4, 2009.

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  1. Pathfinders

    Pathfinders Crowing

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    Yeah, I posted in that Marans thread and then backed out again when it got contentious (Marans people being contentious, who'da thunk it!)

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    The main diff between the Marans color and the Ameraucana color is that the Marans egg color is laid onto the surface, while the Amer color is through the entire egg shell. Different chemicals are used by the chicken's body to put the color in/on. Hemoglobin for the dark brown, and I forget what for the Amer. In fact, you can scrape the brown of a Maran's egg off, while an Amer egg color is not-scrapable, since it goes all the way through the shell.
     
  2. EweSheep

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    Quote:UH oh! I remember this and was not happy about it. I can believe the mistake being made but if you said that the UK breeder never got the ok to use his photo to Julie then the status changes.

    I like Tailfeathers advices, ASK alot about the birds and eggs you will expect to get. I dont know how you can get samples of their egg shell colors, a small piece would suffice if you really want some LOL.

    As many times I looked at the original photo, I agree with Pips, there still TWO green eggs and a TRUE Amercuana should not have any green in it. I never yet seen a Robin's blue egg color but sky blue or light blue is the norm I see. I know Cree Amercuanas DO NOT lay green or green tint eggs as the two girls of mine I had, did not have green in them.

    As for the white chicks, I don't know where it would pop up in the blues and blacks, there is a flaw somewhere. Like one said in here, it may have been a recessive but as Julie mentioned it, then whites are popping up in her flock, certainly not from Cree lines.

    So folks do your homework and do it well. In the long run, you will appreciate it even more when you know you have the TRUE Amercuana flock than a mixed batch of EEs and Amercuanas crosses that would consistently lay any green shades.

    If I am to raise Amercuanas, I would NOT buy any of Julie's eggs, IMO as the wording goes and the product people have been getting. Stick with Tailfeathers, Pips, Cree Farms and other dedicated Amercuana breeders. Not all Amercuana breeders are true breeders or stick with the standards they think they should have their own rules about it. Nothing, I mean nothing, irks me big time when one would call themselves Amercuana breeders when their hens are laying light to med green shades or green blue shades of eggs. UGH!

    Like she mentioned above post, BUYERS BEWARE!
     
  3. AHappychick

    AHappychick Wanna-be Farmer

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    Juging from the eggs and her very incorrect responce about the colors changing I dont think she is an honest person. Personally I would get my money refunded and toss the eggs but if you hatch I would expect EE's not true Ameraucanas.

    As I said before the blue does lighten over time but will not go from blue to almost blue white in a matter of 1/2 a year as what she is implying. My bluest egg layng hen (happens to be an ee) eggs are getting lighter but it does not happen that quickly. Now in a few years they can lighten to a light light blue (almost white) but that takes a few years not one cycle.

    Please leave her feedback accordingly, I am so tired of seeing people ripped off. Just because she is nice (or is in her responces) does not mean she is honest.

    There is a fella that sells quil eggs, he always says God Bless and uses pious words to deflect from the fact that he is not honest. I am always friendly with him but it amazes me how he glosses over a bunch of lies with a nice religios wrapping.

    She has had other complains before, she steals photos, and misleads people into buying what they think are pure breed eggs. That is just wrong, and its not like eggs are cheap or anything.

    Good luck I would put up a wanted post for the real Ameraucana eggs and get from a BYC member that you know has the breed and quality of birds you are looking for. I would suggest Gary but he was banned, but his birds were the nicest I hatched and his egg color was blue (not as blue as his pics) but blue none-the-less

    so sorry you got burned I guess it is a right of passage in some ways, I know I have been burned on both e-bay and eggbid.

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  4. Katy

    Katy Flock Mistress

    Quote:She is also a member of BYC so buyer beware no matter where or who you buy from.
     
  5. SunnyDawn

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    Quote:Sorry, but true Ameraucana eggs are pale or light blue, any green means it's an EE for sure! Not purebred AM. Chick Hatchery has purebred AMs.
    http://chickhatchery.com/
    I would love to buy some from him in the spring but don't want 25 (the minimum order). Anyone in Reno area want to share an order? Only problem is they don't sex their chicks at Chick Hatchery. It's straight run only. You can, however, combine of any of the breeds/varieties offered by them.
    I am looking for large fowl Ameraucanas of which they offer the Black, Wheaton, Lavender, Buff or Silver varieties, but they offer Bantam Ameraucanas and a few other breeds as well.
     
  6. shelleyd2008

    shelleyd2008 the bird is the word

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    Quote:Sorry, but true Ameraucana eggs are pale or light blue, any green means it's an EE for sure! Not purebred AM. Chick Hatchery has purebred AMs.
    http://chickhatchery.com/
    I would love to buy some from him in the spring but don't want 25 (the minimum order). Anyone in Reno area want to share an order? Only problem is they don't sex their chicks at Chick Hatchery. It's straight run only. You can, however, combine of any of the breeds/varieties offered by them.
    I am looking for large fowl Ameraucanas of which they offer the Black, Wheaton, Lavender, Buff or Silver varieties, but they offer Bantam Ameraucanas and a few other breeds as well.

    I've read on here (I thought) of some colors of am. laying greenish eggs? Maybe I was wrong [​IMG]
     
  7. halo

    halo Got The Blues

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    I bought eggs from several difference sources when I was working on my flock of blue/wheaton Ameraucanas. I received a few green-ish eggs from one breeder, which was very disappointing. I didnt incubate those eggs; I didnt want to incorporate them into my flock.
     
  8. EweSheep

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    Quote:Thank you for not incorporating the green egg layers into the Amercuana blue egg genes! That tells me you are a responsible breeder! [​IMG]
     
  9. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    There are ameraucanas that lay green eggs. The standard calls for a blue or minty green egg. Sometimes off color eggs do pop up in purebred birds, that is why it is so important to chose your roo carefully and don't hatch those icky eggs.

    There are some varieties that have still not been perfected. The whites and buffs still need lots of work. Their egg color can range from a minty green to a light khaki color.

    The lavenders also have poor egg color because they were just developed. I do not know the egg color on the brown reds.

    The blues,blacks, splashes, silvers, wheatens and blue wheatens all have very nice egg color and their should be no reason to hatch eggs that are not of good quality unless you have an exceptional bird that lays it.

    This is why I get a little frustrated when people want to develop new colors. The original ones still need work!

    So, my point is, yes, true ameraucanas can lay green eggs, but it is not up to standard. And, as a serious breeder you should not sell or hatch those eggs unless they are designated as a layer flock only bird.
     
  10. Sillystunt

    Sillystunt Master of the Silly

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    pips&peeps :

    There are ameraucanas that lay green eggs. The standard calls for a blue or minty green egg. Sometimes off color eggs do pop up in purebred birds, that is why it is so important to chose your roo carefully and don't hatch those icky eggs.

    There are some varieties that have still not been perfected. The whites and buffs still need lots of work. Their egg color can range from a minty green to a light khaki color.

    The lavenders also have poor egg color because they were just developed. I do not know the egg color on the brown reds.

    The blues,blacks, splashes, silvers, wheatens and blue wheatens all have very nice egg color and their should be no reason to hatch eggs that are not of good quality unless you have an exceptional bird that lays it.

    This is why I get a little frustrated when people want to develop new colors. The original ones still need work!

    So, my point is, yes, true ameraucanas can lay green eggs, but it is not up to standard. And, as a serious breeder you should not sell or hatch those eggs unless they are designated as a layer flock only bird.

    Thanks , this is great info! I actually have 3 of your beautiful white ameraucanas . sunnychic hatched eggs from you and i got 2 hens and a roo. They are REALLY beautiful and my favorite! If i ever see a green egg i will toss it or eat it, They have not yet started laying yet but will keep you posted!​
     
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