Blue Copper and Splash Copper Marans Discussion

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cajun backwoods said:
its hard to see in the pic but she does have a single comb, but its still real small because she is so young but she hatched out of the really dark eggs that came with my black copper marans eggs and white marans eggs so she must be part maran so something may have jumped the fence if you know what i mean lol
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Can you get a couple more photos of her and a close up of her comb? The photo I see on my end is blurry.
 
sol2go said:
Hi pineneedlefarms, Sonora is such a pretty area. I used to live over the pass on the other side of the Sierras. Now...I'm in Southern California...here's my photos. These guys are always on the move, sorry for blurry shots. Options include meeting somewhere "convenient", or I can direct you to the breeder outside of Stockton...pm me if you want to discuss.
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8 weeks?!?!?!? These lovely little boys are beasts already! They have very nice copper coming on.....LOVE THAT!
 
Chickenman76 said:
Hello, how do you breed the Marans for more foot feathering?  Mine have some but nearly as what Iv'e seen in some of these photo's, Thanks for any info!!!
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One of the easier things with Marans in my opinion. Get yourself a rooster that has great shank and outer toe feathering and maybe even if he has a couple no-no feather stubs on the middle toe and cross him over your best feathered females.......or visa versa...find a female with the good shank and outer toe feathering and maybe even a couple no-no feather stubs on the middle toe.

In my personal experience with clean legged or lightly feathered birds......you have to have atleast one of the parent birds that has great shank and outer toe feathering. It can take alot of test mating and crosses to improve the leg feathering but it can be done.
It is very important to have the good feathering to start out working with even if it is just one bird.


3 genes are involved in leg feathering, 2 dominant and 1 recessive. The 2 dominant genes control the amount and type of shank feathering they get....such as one of the dominant genes produces Langshan shank and toe feathering and the other Brahma shank and toe feathering and the recessive gene is for clean legs.

When 2 birds (even if they have fully feathered shanks and outer toes) are crossed and a clean legged bird is produced in the offspring, both parent birds each carry one copy of the recessive gene. This does not mean that the parent bird is not useable just understand that every now and then you will get a clean legged bird when crossing these 2 particular parent birds together, they will also produce feather shanked birds.....just remember that they (the offspring) get that one copy of the recessive gene no matter what. Keeping notes on who you breed to who and what they produce will help you know who carries what so that you can avoid those crosses later and hopefully avoid getting birds that have the issues you are trying to get away from.

Try not to cross birds together that both have an issue. For example, if you cross a rooster that has only 2 shank feathers on each leg to a pullet that has 4 feathers on one shank and 3 feathers on the other shank or she has just same as the rooster......you will get offspring that mimick their parents.
On the other hand....if you take that same pullet from above and cross her to a rooster that has GREAT shank and outer toe feathering........you will get some chicks with good feathering or better feathering, you will also get some chicks that have the crappy crap that you are trying to work away from.




Hope others come by to give you their advise and or opinions about how they breed for it.
 
dutchbunny83 said:
Good to know, I always thought they did.
Well I don't know about Olive Eggers since dad is usually a Maran, but I thought all Easter Eggers did.
Mine always have  :)
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I'm sorry. I should have read the original post twice instead of scanning over it and should have been a little more clear on my statement.......if only breeding Easter Eggers then yes usually they all have poofy cheeks, but even in Easter Eggers some just do not get the cheeks.

In the case of Olive Eggers where a clean faced bird is being used ......generally some of the offspring will not get the muffs.

When I was creating and breeding my Olive Eggers, I got birds that had puffy cheeks and birds that didn't. Some of my OE's looked identical to their Marans parents with only the peacomb and the olive colored egg differentiating the 2. Others were fully fluffy cheeked and looked identical to their Ameraucana parents, but the only thing setting them apart from the AM's was the single comb they got from the Marans rooster and the dark brown egg they laid.
 
pinkchick said:
Hey Hey!

Good to hear from ya! How did you hatching go?
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The hatch went pretty good. I ended up with about 62 chicks and ended up culling one for a leg issue that hobbling just couldn't fix. I just don't think he hatched right. I need to sort through them to see what I've got for sure, but have just been spending most of my time either at work or working outside lately. I think my head barely hits my pillow before I'm out at night
 

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