Blue Copper and Splash Copper Marans Discussion

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Um, anybody have feedback on my roo besides that he has frostbite?
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Quote: Again NOT an expert. The pullet looks like she has a tail that is a little too high for me.... something odd about her tail I can't tell what other than it is LONGER than I am used to seeing. Her eyes look pretty dark too.

The roo is really NARROW.... could be he will fill out but he seems really narrow at the tail not sure that will get corrected.
 
Again NOT an expert. The pullet looks like she has a tail that is a little too high for me.... something odd about her tail I can't tell what other than it is LONGER than I am used to seeing. Her eyes look pretty dark too.

The roo is really NARROW.... could be he will fill out but he seems really narrow at the tail not sure that will get corrected.
Thank you for the input @DMRippy
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At what age does the copper start showing up on the Blues? I have 2, a pullet and a cockerel, that are about 5 weeks old. Pretty much fully feathered, but so far also still solid blue with no hint of any other colors.
 
Um, anybody have feedback on my roo besides that he has frostbite?
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The photo angles are difficult to comment on. It appears that he has quite a bit of copper all over his chest but again, hard to tell with the lighting. His tail looks pinched from the second photo, and he might be narrow behind as well (the two go together often). It is difficult to see if he has any shank feathering at all. He appears to have a crooked toe, but that could be the ice he is stepping on. The copper coloring and eye color look good to me...so many blues are too light in copper color to my eye.
 
At what age does the copper start showing up on the Blues? I have 2, a pullet and a cockerel, that are about 5 weeks old. Pretty much fully feathered, but so far also still solid blue with no hint of any other colors.

Several months old.... maybe even up to a year before you see all the copper. Some don't show it till their second molt. I have had roos that showed copper at a few weeks...... If they don't show copper at 6 months.... I would think they will not show much ever.
 
What is it you think is odd about her? Is it because she is so dark all over for a blue? If you want to lighten up her color just breed her to the blue copper with the copper on his breast you have. you will get splash and then she would be a good candidate for a Splash Cockerel but you can't really see how much copper splash have. You might get the color you like with just the blue copper. I would not worry too much on the clean legs. A roo with good feathered legs will fix that in the chicks. She has the genes for that probably they just didn't express and might come out with a feathered roo.

Experiment.... that is why we MAD SCIENTIST have chickens to see what we can create in the next generation.

i guess i think she is unusual because i know a bit more of the history. Her mom is jet black (i mean really black) and no matter who i have mated her with i get dark colored chicks with no copper and clean legs. Even when the roos have leg feathers. I began thinking that she had some kind of different black gene than the other black coppers i had. She came in a batch of chicks that also contained a couple of black roo's as well..(most likely same parents) the rest were all normal bcm's. (the two black roos became dinner..)

The dark blue is lovely and it would be so cool to have a blue copper in that shade WITH leg feathers. I think you are right about the roo you suggested.. i am going to try it when she starts laying (i guess in about a month). maybe if she is one generation away from the black hen, then some of the copper might be able to come out, who knows !!!!

I can't help it, i just want to match all these birds up and see what comes out !!!
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I have a rooster that has blue on his chest his son has a lot of copper on his chest which one is better
 

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