Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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It's the ALBC's criteria from post 4. I just put in my own words..

Chris

Chris, Sorry I missed that, but as I said is sounds reasonable...except for omitting the Delaware, Red Dorking and other varieties of breeds where one color was recognized but not other colors until later. As I noted earlier, the APA is working on some kind of criteria as well. I am not on the committee, so I have no idea where they are with it. I could pass some of this along though. Maybe sooner than later, so that they have something for the meeting in Shawnee.

Walt Leonard

I would like to see the APA come up with a "Official APA Heritage Breed/ Variety List.

Chris
 
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So, if I join the APA now, I can attend this meeting if I go to Shawnee, Oklahoma? (And then, of course, Walt will collect another thousand dollars) ....

Yes, there will be a general meeting and as a member you will have a say in that meeting. Soooooo.......are you finally going to join? I will get you a seat up front where
I can keep my eye on you.
 
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Chris, Sorry I missed that, but as I said is sounds reasonable...except for omitting the Delaware, Red Dorking and other varieties of breeds where one color was recognized but not other colors until later. As I noted earlier, the APA is working on some kind of criteria as well. I am not on the committee, so I have no idea where they are with it. I could pass some of this along though. Maybe sooner than later, so that they have something for the meeting in Shawnee.

Walt Leonard

I would like to see the APA come up with a "Official APA Heritage Breed/ Variety List.

Chris

That makes sense to me. I will find out how far they are with the Heritage Committee.

Walt Leonard
 
Forgive me, but isn't breeding according to a "standard of perfection" rather artificial? Isn't that how breeds that were once functional got relegated to ornamental status? When these breeds were originally developed they were bred towards specific functions; eggs, meat, and adaptation to the local climate. Breeding to a standard of perfection may be breeding to the letter of the breed, but if I were to raise, say dorkings, and I selected for the meatiest, prolific egg layers, that survived my climate (which resembles that of Britain), wouldn't I be raising them in the spirit of the breed? Meat and eggs being really what they're about. Should the genetic diversity of heritage breeds be needed at some time in the future, wouldn't they want the genes of functional rather than decorative birds?
 
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If you were to breed to the American Standard Of Perfection, you will have a viable chicken that will excel in it's original purpose. The standards are in place to insure taht the various breeds stay true to their original purpose. This is not like German Shepard dogs. Judges look for the original qualities that the specific breeds were bred for years ago. I think that if you read the SOP descriptions you will agree. Is there a particular breed(s) that you can cite that has lost it's qualities because of the SOP? I can't think of any and I have raised most breeds of chickens. I am not talking about hatchery chickens, where quantity is sometimes more important than quality.

Walt Leonard
 
Orlops would be one example of a bird that is no longer raised for any real purpose except ornamental. Others would be Polish, Silkies, etc. They all originated with birds that functioned for their owners. Should something wipe out battery chickens, are we going to want topknots or eggs?
 
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If you were to breed to the American Standard Of Perfection, you will have a viable chicken that will excel in it's original purpose. The standards are in place to insure taht the various breeds stay true to their original purpose. This is not like German Shepard dogs. Judges look for the original qualities that the specific breeds were bred for years ago. I think that if you read the SOP descriptions you will agree. Is there a particular breed(s) that you can cite that has lost it's qualities because of the SOP? I can't think of any and I have raised most breeds of chickens. I am not talking about hatchery chickens, where quantity is sometimes more important than quality.

Walt Leonard

If you're not selecting for egg production, it's going to fall by the wayside. The way fragrance fell by the wayside when they were breeding roses strictly for long stems and color. I was unaware that poultry shows judge performance as well as looks.
 
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