Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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In an earlier post someone asked about the history of the Mohawk strain of Rhode Island Reds Bob Blosl Posted this history in a response to my request for a breif history. So much for breif LOL. Here you goHistory of the Mohawk Large Fowl R I Reds
By Robert Blosl
I just received a email from a fellow who belongs to a group of Heritage Poultry Fowl Enthusiasts asking the question how the Mohawk line of Single Comb Rhode Island Red Large Fowl got started. It began in Canada by a breeder whose name was Maurice Wallace of Iroquois Canada. He crossed many strains of large fowl Reds on to his line in the early 1900s and started a line called 6 Nation Reds. The names of the Six Nations that Mr. Wallace used where from Indianan tribes like the Mohawks, Oneida, Seneca, Cayuga, Onondaga, and Tuscarora Indian nations. In the process of picking great looking Rhode Island Red Large Fowl he started to develop a strain of fantastic type and colored Rhode Island Reds as good as anyone in North America.
In or about 1928 Mr. Wallace showed a Rhode Island Red Cockerel named Mohawk V. at the Poultry Show in Ottawa Canada. The great Poultry Artist and Judge Arthur Schilling judged this great male and made him Champion American Class and of course best Rhode Island Red in the show. Later that night in a hotel room Judge Schilling was rooming with senior judge a Mr. Johnson and he said I guess that Rhode Island Red Cockerel will be the Grand Champion of the show and Mr. Johnson fired back the Hell he will be the Light Brahma Cockerel is going to be Champion of the show. Schilling was shocked to be hearing this in his ears. He has never seen or Photographed such a Rhode Island Red in his life and the bird is not worthy of being champion of a show and will lose to a light Brahma. Latter the next day the Light Brahma was crowned by Judge Johnson and Schilling Grand Champion of the show and Mohawk V. was Reserve Champion of the show. The famous Mohawk V. was of course second runner up, but the most interesting thing I can tell you about this story is that it’s a dream of a life time for a breeder to raise and breed one great bird, but at this show the Light Brahma which was the finest specimen Judge Johnson ever saw in his life was breed by Maurice Wallace. Imagine raising two magnificent large fowl in one year and showing them in impeccable condition at one of Canada’s major Poultry Shows.

Mohawk V. Sold: About a year later I am sure after Mr. Wallace used this great bird on many of his females he sold this Mohawk V. Red Male to Mrs. Donaldson of Decatur Georgia for $150.. Mrs. Donaldson was one of the great breeders who started with her Rhode Island Reds in 1912 with a start from Owen Farms of Massachusetts. She later had two lines of her Reds and she called on line her lines the Mohawk line even in breed pamphlets in the 1940s. I thought the line came from the Mohawk country of New York from a famous Red Breeder who had a high egg production line but it was this male from Mr. Wallace sold to Mrs. Donaldson.

E.W. Reese Jr.: Mrs. Donaldson died in the late 1960s and Mr. Reese along with a friend Buddy Day purchased all of her large fowl. Thought the years both breeders produced outstanding Rhode Island Reds and Mr. Reese shared most of his large fowl each year by selling 25 baby chicks and sending them to his customers. One such breeder was Dennis Meyers who was from Ohio and breed them and won so many shows with his large fowl. I don’t know of any one else who got their start from Mr. Reese other than Dennis who had such success and kept the strain going for so many years.

My visit to Mr. Reese’s Farm: I went to see Mr. Reese in March of 1989 when I attended the spring show in Thompson Georgia . We went to this show and to visited many Rhode Island Red breeders from the south and we became good friends with the owners of Dry Creek Farms of Fairhope Alabama who have been buying Single Comb Rhode Island Reds from Mr. Reese for at least five years. At the farm Mr. Reese showed me all of his large fowl and his mating then he took me to a pen where one fantastic pullet was matted to a unbelievable male. I told Mr. Reese that this is the best Rhode Island Red Cockerel I ever saw. I reached down and picked him up and he said Robert that’s a six year old cock bird. I said there is no way this bird is that old. Mr. Reese said look at his spurs? Man the spurs on this male where at least six inches long. I said how did you get such a great male? Mr. Reese told me about six years ago I raised six wonderful pullets from one of my mating and I got this one great cockerel and that’s the only one but he was special. This great cockerel has looked wonderful every year since. I asked Mr. Reese do you have any of these old hens left sisters to this male. He replied, I sold all of them over the years I have no idea where they are now.

Trip to Dry Creek Farms: Latter the following fall I took a job working in Mobile Alabama and lived in a small city called Silverhill Alabama which was about 15 miles from Dry Creek Farm. Nancy Fitz Morris and Anna Pearson owners of Dry Creek from told me they would give me a pair of Large Fowl as a gift to help me get started. Where do you want to start first looking bob? I said show me your old hens. I was taken to some pens that where only about four feet tall off the ground and looked into the pens and saw a female that really caught my eye. I crawled on my belly and caught her and came out and I told Nancy this is the best looking pullet I have seen in years. Nancy said Bob that’s a old six year old hen. I said Nancy there is no way this is a old hen she looks like a pullet. Then I said did you buy this hen from Mr. Reese.? She said about five years ago. She has won us a lot of awards over the years. She is the mother of the male you liked that you called War Eagle. So we put her in a box and went looking for War Eagle. I found War Eagle out in the field with a couple of Red Females I named him War Eagle because he could see hawks and buzzards high up in the air and yell out a scream to tell the other birds in the yards to run for cover he was like a leader and fit the law that I believed in called the Fit of the Fittest Principle . Then Anna came with a female and said Bob this will make a good breeder she has the best type you ever saw but we can show her as she lost her eye to fowl pox and a mosquito bite. I said to myself she looked a lot like the pullet Mr. Reese had in that breeding pen with that six year old cock bird. I said I will take her. Then I needed another male. I saw a male that caught my eye and I said to the girls who is that male bird. O that’s whodini . Why did you call him that? He always finds a way to get out of a pen. You cannot keep in a cage. Then I said he sounds like he has a great sense to survive and has great Red Type. So he was my second free male to start my strain with. I latter found out the two males where related and came out of a mating were the six year old hen was in. So I said to myself, maybe the two males where the old hens son that’s exciting thing to hope for down the road as I breed my new strain.

Finding the lost genes: As I mated the two females to the two males I realized I had a feather quality problem, My new I WE Reese strain with the young off spring after my first year of hatching showed the feather quality from one female was very poor and stringy. The one eye pullet had the poor feather quietly as a pullet, but great type and worth breeding from. I also saw her sisters in a pen one day that I helped take care of when the two girls went to a chicken show. I noticed when I was feeding these pen sisters there tops of their backs where shredded feathers no tight webs could be found just nice dark feathers on these Red Pullets. This latter proved to me that many who breed Rhode Island Reds put too much emphasis on color instead of type and feather quality. So over the period of five years I picked chicks that feathered the fastest and would carry the fast feathering egg laying gene. This method of choosing fast feathering gene was a method founded by Walter Hogan in a book I read called The Call of the Hen that he wrote in 1914. As I did this I started seeing my pullets with tighter feathering on their backs like you see in hens and as I did this I started to see type on my birds that you dream of having. Then one year I raised a cockerel named number 68. I sent him to the 1998 Ohio National Show and he did not place. Matt Lamont kept him one more month and showed him at the Connersville Indiana show and he would best Rhode Island Red. Matt sent him back to me and from this male I developed what I called the Mohawk line of my Rhode Island Red Large Fowl.

Greg Calmness Line: The only person I know who has my old strain of Mohawk large fowl and breed them pure is Greg Calmness from Knoxville Illinois. Greg got 10 Started chicks from me and bought 8 birds I sold to a fellow from Kentucky who I sold as chicks about 10 years ago. Also, he purchased two males I sold a 4-H youth from Texarkana Texas and at about five years of age crossed these old males onto some of my old hens that where 7 to 9 years old. Greg had great results with this cross. Today Greg has the only pure line that he has line breed for over ten years in the County.

Sharing the Line: Greg has been sharing this Mohawk line of large fowl with others and it is my hope and dream that these people will breed them pure as this line of Rhode Island Reds go back to 1912 with the original Owens Farms Cross as well as the Mohawk V. male Mrs. Donaldson crossed into her line in the 1920s. To my knowledge this is the oldest line of Rhode Island Red large fowl alive in the world. May this story help others get this stain of large fowl Reds and try to search for the lost gene of the famous Mohawk V.

Long live the majestic Rhode Island Red Large Fowl.
 
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Hello I am back from fishing in Salt water in a lagoon near Gulf Shores Alabama or the Gulf of Mexico. I put my kayak in the upper lagoon and the wind was blowing 20 miles an hour. I caught four white trout and one speckled trout and I let them go. I did not feel like cleaning them. When I lived in Washington State I use to fish for Steel Head on the Toutle River that came out of Mount St. Helens. I kept a few females for the eggs for bait and released the rest. I love fishing with ultra light tackle and 6 lb test line. I want the fish to have a chance to beat me in his fight.
Now to Chickens. The chicken that has got my juices going is that Mayla that Walt Leonard posted . What a bird true to breed and wonderful true to breed bird . Rhode Island Reds also have Maya blood in them which gives them their toughness’. Do you know they can roost in trees and even when it’s snowing and don’t even bother them. It’s because of the game in them. I can see a few of you are upset about this thread in contrast to your half rock and half Cornish birds for the freezer. There is nothing wrong with this bird. I had a family in Maine that bought five hundred of these males and made them into capons and then sold them to customers during thanksgiving and Christmas. This still goes on and has been for over 50 years. They did have a run with their two boys showing as juniors about 15 years ago with large fowl Reds and they tore up the shows when these kids where showing. They are all growed up and marred I am sure but these kids did a bang up job when they showed and hopefully one day one of them will get back into chickens and they might when they get about 40 years old. Sometimes it takes a junior till they are 65 and they want to have chickens like they did when they where kids.
Black Sumatra’s are a heart age chicken and one day when I was taking care of Vern Sorenson goats he told me his favorite bird was a black Sumatra. The sheen on a bird is something to behold Vern told me. I never owned them but they are pretty chickens. Did you ever know the Quickest Eye in The West? Cathy those are some pretty black birds.
That’s what it’s all about. You raise what you want. You don’t have to have a standard of Perfection to enjoy your birds. You can still order chickens from your favorite Catalog with the pretty pictures of the perfect chicken if you want. This is America and you can do whatever you want. But there are about 10% of poultry hungry hobby farmers who would like to step it up a notch. We want to help these 10% and the other 90% if you’re happy we are happy.
In regards to the Booklet (Start Where you are with what you have) by Ralph Sturgeon. I have it and I think another Plymouth Rock Fanciers Club member has one. I will look into the possibilities of reproducing it through The Plymouth Rock Fanciers Club and if we can we will look into make some copies available to the public. I have read it at least 20 times. Ralph send me one and a note on a card after I called him about 22 years ago. He basically gave me the idea of how to take a male that had a great head and a male that had a great body and mate them to a neutral female a and in three years you will have a killer bird from this method. You can’t breed the two males together, but you use an outstandaining female and then criss cross the two families and in three years you get what you wanted. I simple called him #68 for his band number and sent him to a National Meet at the Ohio National in 2002 and he didn’t even place. However, Matt Lhamon who I shipped him to said he just not mature enough and let me show him a month later at Connersville show or the Bill Wolff show. Ever heard of Bill Wolff out there? He won best of Breed and I think Champion American at this show and then shipped him back to me. People wanted to know how I got the color like I did and Matt told them I crossed my strain with Speckled Sussex and that is how I got them so Dark. They believed him and many t think my large fowl had Sussex in them. It was a joke. About Blue Rocks in the APA Standard I have no idea. I was told they were in the ABA Standard. If they are in the APA Standard woop de doo that’s great. If they are are they are not available and I do not have any members in our club who have them. No one has asked me where they can get them in two years. They are not very popular as the Buffs, Columbian, Silver Laced, Partridge and the Barred. We need people to step it up a notch and go with the breeds that we have available and try to keep them from going extinct.
So you who wanted to see a Rhode Island Red with extended keel this was one of my best males I raised in 1998 picture is above. The picture is when he was about five months old it took him ten months to reach maturity. Mainly because of my hot humid climate. I cannot be leave the pages on this thread have hit 28 since September 19th.
For you 10% who want to have Heritage Breed I salute you. If you need help finding a breed of your dreams contact me and I will help you find the strain in your region. Got to go to bed and get up early and build some duck pens for my Gray Calls. The bird above is a classic Mohawk bird which I had for about 17 years.
 
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All right. I'm convinced, but one small, last quibble. I read about poor lacing or speckling. You're not going to tell me those things effect function.
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The wing carriage has a lot to do with the viability of a bird..particularly in male chickens. Pinched tails, wry tails are the outward manifestation of an un-thrifty bird. A chicken with a pinched tail almost always has a shallow or narrow body. Not always, but quite frequently. All these seemingly unrelated points come together to make a viable bird.

Walt Leonard
 
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The wing carriage has a lot to do with the viability of a bird..particularly in male chickens. Pinched tails, wry tails are the outward manifestation of an un-thrifty bird. A chicken with a pinched tail almost always has a shallow or narrow body. Not always, but quite frequently. All these seemingly unrelated points come together to make a viable bird.

Walt Leonard


I could tell you that, but I don't think you would believe me. Color should be the last thing to consider when breeding chickens. If the bird does not have the proper body, it does not matter how good the color is......it will add zero to the birds performance. Color is the last thing a judge looks at in a show.

You are in WA, did you ever meet Vern Sorenson? He knew a lot bout chickens.

Walt Leonard
 
I only got into chickens last spring when my son fell in love with some fuzzy chicks.


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I could tell you that, but I don't think you would believe me. Color should be the last thing to consider when breeding chickens. If the bird does not have the proper body, it does not matter how good the color is......it will add zero to the birds performance. Color is the last thing a judge looks at in a show.

You are in WA, did you ever meet Vern Sorenson? He knew a lot bout chickens.

Walt Leonard
 
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I could tell you that, but I don't think you would believe me. Color should be the last thing to consider when breeding chickens. If the bird does not have the proper body, it does not matter how good the color is......it will add zero to the birds performance. Color is the last thing a judge looks at in a show.

You are in WA, did you ever meet Vern Sorenson? He knew a lot bout chickens.

Walt Leonard


Careful, they can be habit forming..........
 
Robert, we are so fortunate to have you here. Thank you so much for taking the time to post all the information that you have, even your fishing adventures! This is turning into one of the very best BYC threads.
 
Now Bob, how can you say you have no club members with any blues? I raise both large and bantam blues and I know at least two others, maybe three working on blue bantams.

I also have a copy of Ralph's book and so does a friend of mine. I think its a must for any serious breeder.

David
 
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