Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[OSUman]

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I'm certainly not going to object there. The birds I hatched from your eggs are the closest to perfect of my big mix here.

Walt - That's the hen I was talking about! I'm hoping some of its bloodlines went to someone who still breeds them today. Does Urch by any chance?

Urch has some idk what line they are tho.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Need a definition of this program:

About 30 years ago a breeder wrote a article and I lost the issue it was in or gave it away. It goes something like this;

There were two hog breeders who got their start from a master breeder of Do lock Hogs from Illinois at the Illinois’ State Fair. These two farmers where young at the time and both got about ten pigs from this master breeder and one breeder lived in Indiana and the other in Virginian. Each year they would show their hogs at the Ohio State Fair and compete for best of breed and all the other honors in the pig division of Registered Berkshire Hogs .

The line breed these hogs the best they could just like the old master breeder told them years ago to do as he did for over fifty years with his strain. Every five years they would meet at the Ohio State Fair and exchange their best sow and then cross this into their line the following year . Over forty years these two breeders had hogs as good if not better than the master breeder who sold them their start forty years earlier.

The master breeder told them by having the same gene pool the different climate, feed, land and water ect would be like a out cross of new blood when they exchanged sows. This was done also by two Rhode Island Red Breeders. One lived in Mass chutes and one in Georgia. Every five to eight years they exchanged a great cockerel to give each other new blood. They did this as well for over twenty years and where considered the five top Rhode Island Red Breeders of all time.

What is this method called? Is there a genetic term that is used by others who breed livestock like this? Its like a outcross but it’s the same strain of birds or hogs that was started in the 1930s.

Hope you can help me out here. Bob

 

[snowbird]

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Walt, Barb Piper is from northern Michigan here in my state. She no longer has chickens of any kind as far as I know. Don

Sorry.I knew she was up there somewhere. She also had awesome Dark Brahma LF. I noticed I misspelled Gary Wilson name as well.

Walt

I could check and see if the person that bought the Mottled Houdan from Barb Piper still has any of the Bloodline left if anyone is interested. Don

 

[Chickielady]

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I do not know what the method is called, but it sounds like the only way some of us can get "new" blood into our RIW line, which apparently all has come from Scraps in Florida.
I sure hope the method works !

 

[Pyncheon guy]

David West bought alot of Barb Piper's Mottled Houdans when she sold out ...I don't know if he still has them or not.....I use to see Barb and her late husband at the shows alot...esp...here in Michigan.

 

[fowlman01]

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Sorry.I knew she was up there somewhere. She also had awesome Dark Brahma LF. I noticed I misspelled Gary Wilson name as well.

Walt

I could check and see if the person that bought the Mottled Houdan from Barb Piper still has any of the Bloodline left if anyone is interested. Don

Barbs Houdans were at least as good as the bird pictured, maybe even better, so it would be good to find out where they are. I haven't seen any out west for a while although Gary Wilson may still be breeding them. I got my original pair from him. he is kind of a recluse, but I will try to contact him.

Walt

 

[heritagehabitatfarms]

i would love to know where a few breeders where... i plan on ordering from Urch/Turnland but it would be nice to get some from another breeder as well...

thanks Elias

 

[al6517]

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Elias : Is that you.............. This is AL...............

AL

 

[heritagehabitatfarms]

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Elias : Is that you.............. This is AL...............

AL

lol yep its me

 

[fowlman01]

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Keep in mind that a lot of what you see in shows is regional unless you travel to shows. What you hear at shows is very much like what you hear here on BYC.....take it with a grain of salt unless you know the source. Anyone who breeds a utility/dual purpose fowl to just look good will soon be out of business. With the "heritage" poultry movement and all the newbies associated with it, you will see and hear all kinds of things that are not necessarily correct.

When I judge a chicken, it better have more than just feathers. It needs to have well spaced legs, large capacity for the organs, good fleshing etc.....everything a farmer would want in his flock. I have no way to know how many eggs it lays, but I can tell if a bird is not thrifty. There are Australorps around that have been crossed with Orps and they look it. They are short and fluffy and don't even look like the breed. The Orp in my avatar and all the females Orps I had laid every bit as well as my Plymouth Rocks.....they all laid well for a dual purpose fowl. There are different strains of each breed and each strain will perform differently. Environment and management also plays are big part in production, so it is difficult to know how other birds of a breed perform unless you go out of your area or actually raise the breed yourself.

Alan Feagly here in CA has LF Brahma's that mature in a year and they are huge! I will take some pics of some young birds in two weeks when he shows them at Stockton.

Bottom line is: Don't always believe what you hear, especially if it is regional.

The breeding projects you find on this site are not indicative of what serious breeders are interested in and don't even get me started on Lavender. I am becoming one of the most hated men in poultry because of lavender.........

Walt