Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[fowlman01]

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I'm pretty sure that they are very good. Let us know how it goes.

Walt

 

[lildinkem]

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I'm pretty sure that they are very good. Let us know how it goes.

Walt

I surely will Walt. Hey is Mr Brazelton the gentlemen that Bob Coulter got his Buffs from? I remember a conversation a while ago and his name came up as being responsible for alot of our best Buff Orpington breeders having authentic Clevenger lines. I am pretty sure it was Brazelton. My first year issue, is dealing with the lite Buff color birds I picked up last year. They may have type, but I have to work on color.
I can tell you have the correct Buff color locked down. I really like the color of your Buff in your avatar.

 

[bunnibird55]

Hi All!
I have tried to keep up with this thread but I might have missed a few posts. I have seen very little about New Hampshire Reds - are these considered a true heritage breed? I LOVE my NHR hens and roo's - to me they have everything I want in a chicken. Now, I just need to find out if I am breeding true to type chickens! Where can I find out a lot more than the little blurb on the APA site? I really want to learn the best traits to maintain and strengthen in these wonderful chickens! Does anyone know a NHR breeder that I can buy a couple really good hens from?
Thanks in advance - I just want to do the right thing!

 

[Chris09]

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Not to sound rude but, the breed is a New Hampshire (no Red at the end).
They are a Heritage breed but you are best to find a good breeder to get them from. Hatchery stock just isn't going to cut it, there no where near what the breed should be..
As for a breeder of New Hampshire, I cant say I know a one off hand. When Robert Blosl gets back onhe might be able to find one for you..

Chris

 

[punky rooster]

ok I'm confused here http://www.amerpoultryassn.com/APA_Recognized_Breeds_6_2010.pdf it says that the RC dorking was admitted in 1960 but if you look at the English class then you will see White Dorking admitted in 1874

as far as i know there is only the one White Dorking and it is Rose comb. And what about the Silver Gray Dorking it says the same thing about that too?
Are they a heritage breed or not?
thanks punky

 

[Chris09]

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1960 is the year that the Bantam White Dorking was admitted into the APA.
1874 is the year that the Large Fowl White Dorking was admitted into the APA.

The Silver-Gray, Colored and White all were admitted into the APA in 1874.

Chris

 

[bunnibird55]

Thanks Chris!
No offense taken - I need to learn about my chickens and this is the one way to get information from people who know! My mom always raised chickens when I was a kid - that was many years ago - and I have just seriously gotten back to raising chickens three years ago. I have what I think are some nice New Hampshires (

) but I need to know more about the standards if I am going to do the breed justice! No one in my area (NW Ohio) seems to even know anything about New Hampshires much less what they are supposed to look like! I know mine have great personalities, even my roo's and my hens are the best brown egg layers around. People at work and at my church are all on the list to buy eggs from me and my girls don't disappoint me and have even kept up good production during the hot summer we have had this year. They didn't even drop off last winter, so to me, they are the perfect chicken - I just want to make them as close to the correct type as possible! I raised parrots for about 10 years and have seen all the stupid things people are doing to them by breeding two different breeds together, same as in dogs, then just giving them made up names like a "party dog" or a "NanSun" bird.
I want to do the breeding correctly - not stupidly!
All advice is Welcomed!
Thanks! Janis

 

[hallerlake]

Please don't laugh, but my background is in horticulture. I know that if I only save seed from plants that have the characteristics I want every year, and rogue out (cull) all other plants that don't have those characteristics, I will, given enough time, have a seed strain that will consistently give me plants with the characteristics I want. Won't this work with chickens? It may not be the most efficient way of doing it, but it should work eventually. Right? If I want chickens with big eggs, and I only hatch the biggest eggs every year. I should eventually end up with a coop full of big egg layers. No? So, if I got a bunch of hatchery chickens of a certain breed, and only breed those closest to the standard every year, getting rid of all others, shouldn't I eventually end up with line of chickens consistently close to the standard? Obviously, starting with good birds is a lot faster, but what if I can't get good birds to start with. I figure I've got another twenty, thirty years in me. That should do it. Right?



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Not to sound rude but, the breed is a New Hampshire (no Red at the end).
They are a Heritage breed but you are best to find a good breeder to get them from. Hatchery stock just isn't going to cut it, there no where near what the breed should be..
As for a breeder of New Hampshire, I cant say I know a one off hand. When Robert Blosl gets back onhe might be able to find one for you..

Chris

 

[WallTenters]

Anyone have some photos of eggs? I think that's the only thing that is lacking on this thread.. I'd love to also hear about the dual purpose breeds and their meat production.

I really think that promoting the heritage breeds (the nice ones, not the hatchery crossbreds) by showing what they can produce would really get the backyard hobbiest into the game. I mean, is there really much point in everyone trying to improve the breed if only serious breeders will continue to do so? It would be nice to see the kind of birds posted here in some guy's backyard when you drive down the street, to me that would be real success!

After just some time with our Doms, we really see the value in them. When they say they are good foragers, they really are good foragers!! And they do butcher out very nice. The meat was so delicious, and one bird was perfect with some veggies for a setting for four. Perfect Sunday dinner! We just can't wait to have a flock that actually meets up to the standard, I drool over the Schilling hen every time I see that drawing.

My only concern is, I'm sure everyone thought things were looking up back in the early 1900s for these wonderful breeds, and then here we are today, scrounging for the scraps of what used to be wonderful breeds that now only a handful of bloodlines are worth their grit.

Anyone else feel the same way, or is this the Riesling talking?

 

[tnchickenut]

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Once again... a membership to the APA and/or ALBC will get you a ton of contacts... for example, Bill Braden (Land of Tobe) has them. I think his Dels are gorgeous! I haven't looked into his NHs, but I'm sure they are good. He is in Oklahoma, btw.