Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[tnchickenut]

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Here here!

the APA yearbook is PACKED with names and breeds... and points earned! The ALBC sends out a breeders directory too. So... there you go... money well spent. Not to mention, when you join and you get breeding... it's a advertisement for your birds as well. Would you spend $50 on a place in a book saying you breed this or that chickens? A newspaper ad in your town probrably costs more and will get less people who are looking for what you offer to read it.

 

[lildinkem]

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lololol I like ROCKS! lololol I have learned more about rocks on EBAY then in many books I own. I can go on and on about rocks. My wife is trying to get me to unload a couple hundred pounds of, as she calls it "junky old rocks". lololol All rocks are old. lolol
Back on topic, I do, what is told to me, a form of trap breeding. One cock in an 8' x 8' totally enclosed pen. Nothing goes in or out with out me opening the pen. That makes it real easy to know who is on whom. I have a 2nd generation off the original line that looks much different because on the Pontious influence. He too is half Cecil, but boy what a difference from just one season of breeding a 1/2 Pontious back to another 1/2 Pontious can do. I am still trying to recover his mom's pics. Their in my dead computer. BUT, I am lucky to have sent pics of her to my Black Orpington breeder. So, thanks to the ever huge storage of info in MSN, I can recover them in my "semt email" folder, eventually. This 6 month ole Black cockerel is the spittin image of her. And his dad is the cock I call Flozelle, he's a big boy.. Now, here is when the line is a heritage line, but by MY choice of what I like, I can totally change a look of a given line. So, this combo will have to be left to it's own. And not reintroduced back to the parent, or in this case, grand parent stock. I wish I could get Cecil to tell me what he would do? lolol

 

[Chris09]

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That would be the one...
Like you said they are now very rare. I think I may have seen one real good hen on this site. The hen had it all, Great type and the color was the best I have ever seen on a New Hampshire plus the ticking in the neck was perfect. I believe that the breeder was in the U.K. and was breeding to the U.S. standard..

Kenneth Bowles, I read some posts over at CROhio about him.. (He is one of the greats)

Chris

 

[joletabey]

Stacy- I got you down! Once I hear back from Marty, I will try to contact all the people who have said yes, and get a chat going - toss out ideas and see what we can do!

 

[lildinkem]

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I like your Buff. My favorite Buff Orpington line is from a guy (Josh Yarnell) southwest of Bloomington IN who has his Buffs from his granny. I found out about htem from the guy who gave me my first Buffs. My first Buffs I got from Larry who bought them as chicks from Doug. Josh's granny had Buffs since the 70's. Very unique with big chests. sorta gangly as they grow. I was the last to a six $6 Buff cockerel Craigslist sale. And these are my first attempt to breeding Buff Orpingtons. I can't count them as heritage, since I crossed these lines. But, Josh said his granny would only on occasion get a new Buff at a show through the years. So, Buffs are really close to my heart. I have some nice Buffs from very reputable breeders that I focused on breeding up some numbers this past breeding season. But, I really wished I did more with my Yarnell granny/Akers line. Now as the thirteen I had kept and culled down to just 9 (5 being cockerels)are all I have to work with plus thei hens they came from which is only two. That is what I culled down to. And this spring I definitely am giving them much higher credit.
Now I have been told to cull down to my broadest chest and biggest heads first. I went from 9 cockerels to 5. I forwarded pics to friends and they say take them all to the Lebanon IN Show on Oct 16th and get a judge's opinion for both, the one who shows the best, and the one in which to use for breeding. It was emphasized to me, that the better bird all around MAY not be the one to breed better Buffs. So, I am showing 5 Buff cockerels who will be barely 7 months old. And I know they have no chance on beating a 10 or 11 month ole. And that is fine. I am there paying with a smile $3 a bird for the judge to thoroughly give me an evaluation. Amd I will always show for this reason only. So, get ready to see alot of younger Orpingtons here in Indiana shows. And bare with me as I raise up my different lines of Buffs lolol

Oh one more idea I read and was told is a good idea. Is to take a bunch of pics of your original parent/grandparent stock to keep as a guide to what to look for as you raise newer generations. I think that is a good idea too. I have alot of pics from my original lines of Orpingtons.

The bird in my avatar is one of many I raised from the old Ralph Brazelton line. I liked that line because they didn't have all the fluff on the the thighs and legs that make them look like Cochins with no feathers on their feet. Orps are really nice birds. I'm glad to see you mention big heads. That is something a lot of longtime breeders forget about. I like your buff in the avatar. Taking pics from the start is a very good idea. Overall it sounds as if you have a very good plan.

Walt

Walt,
A guy who I met at my first show use to be an Old Stringman told me that about how he judges a bird. He first looks down the back towards the head. And then IF the birds passes those two he move on in judging.
Here is my original to granny's Buffs line. Are these too fluffy?
These are some of the Buffs I am taking to the Show. Your a Buff guy.
Whatta think? BE BRUTAL! I know they need tons more of work. And I just want to know the nasty. That is why I am paying the $3. lol

Pic of one of the pullets. Their all near 7 months ole

 

[Robert Blosl]

The Columbian Rock Bantams are from a junior in California and she sent me these pictures for a article we put in our news letter called our Junior Collum. I just love the type on this male you would want even the large fowl to have this gravy bowl look. The females in the back ground have color like the old time light Brahmas use to have in the 1960s.
There are no large fowl Columbians like this except for a club member who lives in Canada. There may be a strain of his birds in Ohio and might be able to share some of his birds with us this spring. I have to call him and ask him. He is my contact guy or judge when I cannot find a bird or breed for you beginners. He knows ever chicken alive in the mid west.
The leghorn bantams are from the Old line from Oregon called Lenard Smith Line. They are funny as little chicks their beaks look like parakeet beaks. Never saw a strain like this .Can’t remember how to spell Al’s last name right now, but he had excellent white leghorn bantams and the prettiest white Wyandotte’s large Fowl you ever saw. They belonged to a fellow in Iowa that use to advertise the Pearl of the Plains White Wyandotte’s and he crossed them latter onto an old strain of Wade Fullerton Line from Ohio which I sent him two birds about 22 years ago. Bob

 

[tnchickenut]

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Anxiously waitting!

 

[fowlman01]

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I have been a lurker enjoying the thread, but just had to comment about this remark. Thank you for saying what I have thought about the Orp breed for some time. I have been reluctant to get Orps because the "old fashioned" ones don't seem to be acceptable anymore, and seemingly hard to find. If I wanted a Cochin, I'd get one.

Sande

The old fashion "real" ones are acceptable if I'm judging. they were never meant to look like Cochins.

It clearly says in the SOP "lower body feathers, not too profuse, showing profile of hocks".

Walt

 

[fowlman01]

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Leonard Smith had wonderful white Leghorn bantams. He was also a very fine man.

Walt

 

[lildinkem]

Walt,
We'll be happily at an APA show to let everyone see them in person. Thank you for the input.