Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[3riverschick]

Searching Poultry Science journal content for Blue Andalusian (all words) in full text. (Abstracts available w/o subscription)
http://tinyurl.com/8fbnuxe

Further Study on the Plumage Pattern of the Blue Andalusian Breed
J. L. CAMPO andC. ALVAREZ
Poult Sci 1991 70:1-5; doi:10.3382/ps.0700001

Comparative Genetics of Blue Plumage in Poultry
R. George Jaap andT. T. Milby
Poult Sci 1944 23:3-8; doi:10.3382/ps.0230003

Feather Eumelanin Distribution Variations in Buff Orpington, New Hampshire
and Rhode Island Red Breeds of Fowl
Ralph G. Somes, Jr. andJ. Robert Smyth, Jr.
Poult Sci 1966 45:40-49; doi:10.3382/ps.0450040
(references "Lippincott (1918) in his studies with the Blue Andalusian, and their phenotype")

I believe all these articles need a subscription to Poultry Scence. Many colleges and Univesities carry the whole archive of this mag. Just a trip to their library can get one access. Use WorldCat to ID libraries with this mag: http://www.worldcat.org/
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3382978
Br Poult Sci. 1988 Mar;29(1):175-8.
Inheritance of the laced plumage pattern of the blue Andalusian bantam.
Carefoot WC.
" genotype of the laced plumage pattern of the Blue Andalusian is
E/E Bl/bl+ Co/Co (Ml-Pg)/(Ml-Pg)."

http://www.traveldoctoronline.net/i...f-the-blue-andalusian-bantam-MzM4Mjk3OA==.htm
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USDA - The National Agricultural Library (NAL):
Title: Blue Andalusians--the state of the breed of today.
Author(s): Bowden, R.A.
Found In: Ark. Ark June 15, 1979. v. 6 (6)
p. 170-172.
This can be ordered via interlibrary loan from your local library. NAL does not loan to individuals.
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Everybody's poultry magazine - Volume 24 - Page 598books.google.com/books?id=lKFOAAAAYAAJ
Pennsylvania Poultry Federation, Pennsylvania Egg Marketing Association - 1919 -
24 hits on Blue Andalusian including articles on:
Breeding Problems of Andalusian ; Blue Andalusians; History of Blue Andalusians;
http://tinyurl.com/cma8cqb
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From 1915: Blue Andalusian Club of America. President, E. D. Bird, Greenwich, Conn.; secretary, H. L. Peck, Champaign, III. Organized 1913, members 125. Initiation fee $1.00. Annual dues $1.00. Catalog issued in April, price 25c to non-members. Offers ribbons at every show where two or more members compete, cups to states with 10 or more members.
(Perhaps checking these geographic locations will yield local news on BA.)
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http://tinyurl.com/cgr3s3c
Another USDA NAL selection:
902 Official book of the Blue Andalusian Club of America ( Blue Andalusian Club of America). Published: Hartland : Solitarian Press. Language: English. Place of Pub: Vermont. Frequency: Unknown. NAL Call No.: 47.9 B62.
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The journal of heredity - Volume 11 - Page 342 , 1920 -
http://tinyurl.com/8etexkg
"A Note on the Hereditary Behavior of a Normal Blue Andalusian Hen
Whose Feathers Changed to Snowy White"
WILLIAM A. LIPPINCOTT Kansas Agricultural Experiment Station, Manhattan, Kansas

 

[Arielle]

Walt, good luck on the serema test. I'm sure you'll do fine!

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

Good evening all

Here are 2 of the cockerels I'm considering as 2013 breeders...I'm raising LF Columbian Plymouth Rocks

The first has a best tail, the second needs some help in the area of tail lift

Thoughts, critiques, advise.....especially from you judges??!! Walt, NYREDS....where ARE you?? I'm a big boy and can take anything!!!

 

[thedragonlady]

Quote:
A stringman is someone who assembles a large group of birds, most often C,H,K, 3P in numerous breeds, and hauls them to fairs and shows for the premium money.Sometimes they had 1000 birds in their string. Wilbur Stauffer was one of the last, and was a very knowledgable ABA-APA judge as well. I was lucky enough to have him as a mentor for 25 + years. He never steered me wrong.

 

[aveca]

lol , ironic you said that Vickie..one of my freinds up here does just that..in fact he just told me last week that an old timer got mad at him was scolding him at a show, for bringing 200 birds to the shows , said your nothin but a blank blank stringman...interesting it came up in this conversation.they are really good freinds of mine..they know chickens for sure..keep a nice neat farm, grew so big they had to buy 2 farms...they sweep the fair shows, cleaned house one year at Pa farm show , but dont hold up very well at APA shows.it all kind of falls apart for them at that level...some top breeder birds travel out to the APA shows, serious good birds..they might win a class, maybe 2 but seldome if ever hit champion row..they went out to nationals one year, bombed out...

befor they moved up here , there was a guy from north of us did the same thing, one year he showed up with 400 birds..pat , who runs the fair show told him that show was supposed to be for kids ect..they had a falling out mostly because he took all of the fair checks every year.

. the funniest thing my freind and neighbor the stringman did was get after me , saying, Lynne, you need to get those eggs in that incubator and i mean now...this was december 1st..he kept hounding me for 2 years..your going to be way behind if you dont get going he kept saying...they moved up here from alabama...this year he said he was so mad at me that i wouldnt touch it november - december..all of a sudden this summer he said, well im not hatching or doing that ever again up here, waiting till feb...boy ive picked on him ever since..at the last show, i said boy you better get going, better get those eggs in...he just said aaaarrrrrghh, and walked away..

 

[catdaddyfro]

Dick Horstman has Silver Penciled Rocks.
Karen

yep, and these too: http://horstmanspoultry.com/largefowlhome/partridgerock.html

Jeff

 

[catdaddyfro]

A stringman is someone who assembles a large group of birds, most often C,H,K, 3P in numerous breeds, and hauls them to fairs and shows for the premium money.Sometimes they had 1000 birds in their string. Wilbur Stauffer was one of the last, and was a very knowledgable ABA-APA judge as well. I was lucky enough to have him as a mentor for 25 + years. He never steered me wrong.

dragonlady I wonder if you or anybody else for that matter could elaborate on the C,H,K,3P letter and numerals. I have just started reading up on stuff over on a showing site and I get really lost fast as I know didley squat about the show ring in the first place but I'm becoming more interested as I raise up more and more of these awesome heritage type birds. anyway I figured this was a good a time/place as any to ask.

Jeff

 

[catdaddyfro]

Good evening all

Here are 2 of the cockerels I'm considering as 2013 breeders...I'm raising LF Columbian Plymouth Rocks

The first has a best tail, the second needs some help in the area of tail lift

Thoughts, critiques, advise.....especially from you judges??!! Walt, NYREDS....where ARE you?? I'm a big boy and can take anything!!!

Scott I cant say yea or nay here on much on these guys but evertime you post them up on here or elsewhere I sure get to liking them more and more.

Jeff

 

[3riverschick]

yep, and these too: http://horstmanspoultry.com/largefowlhome/partridgerock.html

Jeff

Wow, those are some lovely Red Dorkings that Dick has!
Karen

 

[sgribble]

dragonlady I wonder if you or anybody else for that matter could elaborate on the C,H,K,3P letter and numerals. I have just started reading up on stuff over on a showing site and I get really lost fast as I know didley squat about the show ring in the first place but I'm becoming more interested as I raise up more and more of these awesome heritage type birds. anyway I figured this was a good a time/place as any to ask.

Jeff

C is a cock,H is hen,K is cockerel and P is pullets.