Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[NanaKat]

However, I am coming back to the basic roots of how to get started and maybe I need to write a article for my web site called How to Get Started in Standard Breed Fowl. Keep it simple on a 8th grade level so all can understand how to do it and be successfully.

What is your web link?

So if some one throws a CURVE ball on this tread and gets us off Target I am going to Just respond with a pretty picture of a old time chicken and say KISS.

Merry Christmas to you all and those White Cornish and their other colored Cousins are as All American Standard Breed Fowl as they come. In fact when I saw them
I thought of the master breeder Louie Strait who had the best I ever saw. I often wondered if he passed on his secrets to the students who knew him?

My other goal is to interview with a tape recorder at the New nan Georgia Show in February. Mr. Silver Spangled Hamburg from Georgia on how to breed this color pattern. Not that I want to breed these chickens but to preserve this for the future fanciers and breeders of this breed. We should have the basics of how to breed these old time breeds on tape or in writing or a video so the future youth who grow up will know how to breed this color pattern 50 years ago. I had a fellow write me thanking me for all my articles on my web site on Plymouth Rocks so he could down load into his computer. He even wanted to order some White Rock Chicks to give to a friend who wanted this old breed as a Christmas Gift.

We need to give to the future in this hobby any way we can. Pick a breed you want to support.

Great idea!

Lamonas are supposed to dress out nicely too, but acquiring some is nearly impossible
Quote: I showed the pictures of the Lamonas to my MIL and she said they looked like the variety of Leghorn she had in the 1950s. My MIL is 87 and when her children were growing up in SE Oklahoma, she and her husband had 1700 white Leghorns that produced eggs they sold from their home and to the local grocery store chain. She would butcher several for Sunday dinner and then boil the bones for chicken and dumplings the next day. She canned everything they could grow and fed her family of 7 as well as her aged grandfather and the 3 little boys of her BIL.
Their hen house was a long barn with nest boxes on both sides, with feeders and waterers down the middle. The ends were open to the hen yard. They periodically bought baby chicks and raised them up to replace the layers.
She is going to look for some pictures she may have.

 

[desertmarcy]

I posted photos of 6 of my GS Barred Rocks on the GS Barred Rock thread. Posts no. 634 and 636.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/399477/barred-rocks-good-shepard-poulty-ranch/630

If you all would take a look and critique these I'd sure appreciate it. I was planning on butchering a few of them in two days....hope to keep the best two or three. Thanks.

 

[NotAFarm]

Quote: Bob's website (that I know of) is http://bloslspoutlryfarm.tripod.com/

 

[OSUman]

THey need more time to fill out

I posted photos of 6 of my GS Barred Rocks on the GS Barred Rock thread. Posts no. 634 and 636.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/399477/barred-rocks-good-shepard-poulty-ranch/630

If you all would take a look and critique these I'd sure appreciate it. I was planning on butchering a few of them in two days....hope to keep the best two or three. Thanks.

 

[BarnGoddess01]

Lets keep plowing away on this thread on how to get more people involved in raising old breeds of chickens with out a masters degree in Poultry Science. [/B

Why have I seen several posts on here apparently discrediting further education in Poultry Science. WOW, that is incredibly short sited to ignore modern education and science and research. Does simply having a degree make you a 'master breeder'? No it doesn't, but to ignore those that have further educated themselves in the poultry sciences is just plain ignorant.......[/QUOTE]

I am a HUGE fan of education and am the first one to hand out genetics advice at any opportunity, however, I don't think the point of the comment was to diss education but rather to make it clear to folks on this thread that formal education in science is not required to keep and breed chickens well.

 

[Bentley]

I read over to the Showbird site that there are some who have crossed in Cobb-Vantress stuff into their Rocks don't know all the details but they must be trying to get them BIGGER still yet, the kicker here is, some of these guys ARE some of our distinguished judges and masters at breeding also. :/ I venture to say it surely doesn't help with the not so spiffy laying of these birds too. In my experiences in the past, these broiler crosses probly have a feed/egg lay rate conversion of 5-10 % on a good day (young,springtime conditions) the bigger the bird the less they lay, its a natural given as the more mass a metabolic system has to support the less efficient it is at producing (extras) I don't get some of the ideas folks come up with sometimes but I don't get a lot of regular stuff either, LOL In other words its all for show. I think it was Walt who said this type issue will naturally weed itself out, but too that doesn't keep man from just keeping on crossing and crossing (showing hybrids?) to have this type results too, IMO

Ok I'll quit and sure I'm going to get lambasted but he he Oh well

Jeff

You are making some 'assumptions' here on egg production in those Broiler Breeders that I don't think you have data to back up. The modern Cobb-Vantress Broiler breeder hen has an expected egg production of 180 eggs (which is often exceeded) in a 40 week production cycle. That's about 65% life of flock production with them often peaking above 80% production. If you want on calculate that out to eggs per year that's over 230 eggs per year. These geneticists do NOT ignore egg production at the expense of growth and attempt to get growth while at the very least maintaining egg production.

 

[kathyinmo]

I have some fluffy fat Orps. Maybe a few could meet the SOP, but most are too fluffy. I am not working on this breed. I just have a few for fun. They are lousy layers, too.

I will try to get pictures of my White Rocks tomorrow.

 

[Bentley]

I am a HUGE fan of education and am the first one to hand out genetics advice at any opportunity, however, I don't think the point of the comment was to diss education but rather to make it clear to folks on this thread that formal education in science is not required to keep and breed chickens well. 

I totally agree, a degree in poultry sciences is not necessary, but education should not be discredited either, especially when applied in real world situations.

And Kathy, I never called anyone ignorant on here AT ALL. The knowledge of the participants here is invaluable for sure. What I said was hat to ignore science and education was ignorant, I never called anyone that. That would be ignorant on my part.

 

[Lacy Blues]

Kathy, they are so cute! I love Orpingtons. I have about a half dozen bantam blue/black/splash Orpingtons. I'm not breeding them, I just love having them!

 

[kathyinmo]

And Kathy, I never called anyone ignorant on here AT ALL. The knowledge of the participants here is invaluable for sure. What I said was hat to ignore science and education was ignorant, I never called anyone that. That would be ignorant on my part.

OK. My mistake.