Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[catdaddyfro]

Two new standard bred birds (in quarantine) He's a bit washed out because of the flash. This year's birds.
Help finding the sop thread for these would be appreciated

Pretty and nice barring heres a thread that might have what you seek,
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/399477/barred-rocks-good-shepard-poulty-ranch

Jeff

 

[Robert Blosl]

Wanting to wish everyone on this thread a.....................................




[They're White Cornish; the ultimate heritage meat bird in my opinion, and my personal choice as a utility, self-sustaining meat breed.]

Thank you. I was listening to a talk show out of Mobile Alabama its called the Uncle Henry Show. They were calling up to wish Uncle Henry a MERRY CHRISTMAS. Not a happy Holiday.

Boy how has our county gone to the side which every side you want to call it. Taking God out of Christmas to pleas the very few.

Then they had a lady come on called Regan Girl. What the Heck is that. Then I figured that out as after she got off Wishing Uncle Henry a Merry Christmas they had the Regan Report going back a a speech he gave in 1987. His subject really hit home for me

COMMON SENSE: After listing to what he was trying to tell us I said that's what we need on this TREAD. More Common Sense on raising Old Fashion Standard Breed Poultry.

So I said its time to set GOALS for the New Year. So that's my goal for 2013 getting back to the Basics and KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID. KISS

So if some one throws a CURVE ball on this tread and gets us off Target I am going to Just respond with a pretty picture of a old time chicken and say KISS.

Merry Christmas to you all and those White Cornish and their other colored Cousins are as All American Standard Breed Fowl as they come. In fact when I saw them
I thought of the master breeder Louie Strait who had the best I ever saw. I often wondered if he passed on his secrets to the students who knew him?

My other goal is to interview with a tape recorder at the New nan Georgia Show in February. Mr. Silver Spangled Hamburg from Georgia on how to breed this color pattern. Not that I want to breed these chickens but to preserve this for the future fanciers and breeders of this breed. We should have the basics of how to breed these old time breeds on tape or in writing or a video so the future youth who grow up will know how to breed this color pattern 50 years ago. I had a fellow write me thanking me for all my articles on my web site on Plymouth Rocks so he could down load into his computer. He even wanted to order some White Rock Chicks to give to a friend who wanted this old breed as a Christmas Gift.

We need to give to the future in this hobby any way we can. Pick a breed you want to support.

KISS.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Ok, now that I know you discussed my husband's brain and his painting of Elvis and Brownie on here, I'll have to back up and read this whole thread!

Boy Susan I bet your husband could say a few things about that. Regardless if he is inner or outer or left or right he is a super star. I would love to talk to him on the phone about his skills and how the younger folks can some day learn how to be like him. His work is simply fantastic.

If you are going to read this thread It may take you two months. It is loaded with some great stuff. However, I am coming back to the basic roots of how to get started and maybe I need to write a article for my web site called How to Get Started in Standard Breed Fowl. Keep it simple on a 8th grade level so all can understand how to do it and be successfully.

Thank you for coming on board.

 

[galanie]

Bob I don't think you can do any better than this, unless you take them to your friend's yourself.

This fellow sent me egg like THIS, and they arrived in fine shape. I've used the same method, 3000 miles away with success, and had friends ship to me using this method, no breakage.


My boy is a cub scout and every fall the fire company brings a ladder truck over and the boys get to drop an egg off the ladder, packed any way they see fit. My boy uses this way of packing, and never has had a broken egg. From 40' in the air onto concrete.

Glen

That's interesting. I just received 14 eggs that were shipped and they were rapped similar to this but they were doubled boxed as well. 13 out of 14 are developing.

Chris

I've not had eggs arrive packed either way. Usually they arrrive individually packed in bubble wrap but with the ends sealed like another posted described and once they were just in tightly packed sawdust. The sawdust ones were a complete failure. The rest all had broken air sacs. In spite of that I have gotten as high as 50% but usually it's less. I'm using the open wrap tubes in packing peanuts method if I ever ship. Double boxed sounds good too.

 

[OSUman]

I was able to hold one of the birds, a barred rock, at the Lebanon IN show, it was a solid bird, but you wouldn't think it was much larger then most other Rocks when they were in the cage. The fact that theyre using the breeder birds would probably mean that their production is better, because the breeder birds are most likely bred to be good producers of eggs, and high fertility, so that when they do the cross they can get the most bang for their buck.

I read over to the Showbird site that there are some who have crossed in Cobb-Vantress stuff into their Rocks don't know all the details but they must be trying to get them BIGGER still yet, the kicker here is, some of these guys ARE some of our distinguished judges and masters at breeding also.

I venture to say it surely doesn't help with the not so spiffy laying of these birds too. In my experiences in the past, these broiler crosses probly have a feed/egg lay rate conversion of 5-10 % on a good day (young,springtime conditions) the bigger the bird the less they lay, its a natural given as the more mass a metabolic system has to support the less efficient it is at producing (extras) I don't get some of the ideas folks come up with sometimes but I don't get a lot of regular stuff either, LOL In other words its all for show. I think it was Walt who said this type issue will naturally weed itself out, but too that doesn't keep man from just keeping on crossing and crossing (showing hybrids?) to have this type results too, IMO

Ok I'll quit and sure I'm going to get lambasted but he he Oh well

Jeff

 

[Lacy Blues]

Boy how has our county gone to the side which every side you want to call it. Taking God out of Christmas to pleas the very few.

They are the squeaky wheel Bob. They make the most noise and so they get the oil. Just like your front door. If it squeaks for very long, you'll do something about it.

The rest of us need to get squeaky.

 

[ashandvine]

Pretty and nice barring heres a thread that might have what you seek,
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/399477/barred-rocks-good-shepard-poulty-ranch

Jeff

Thank you. Are all PBR considered to be from the Good Shephard line?

 

[VA Susan]

Boy Susan I bet your husband could say a few things about that. Regardless if he is inner or outer or left or right he is a super star. I would love to talk to him on the phone about his skills and how the younger folks can some day learn how to be like him. His work is simply fantastic.

If you are going to read this thread It may take you two months. It is loaded with some great stuff. However, I am coming back to the basic roots of how to get started and maybe I need to write a article for my web site called How to Get Started in Standard Breed Fowl. Keep it simple on a 8th grade level so all can understand how to do it and be successfully.

Thank you for coming on board.

Thanks Bob! Thanks for your kind comments about Bill's work. I love learning about chicken and about genetics and I will look forward to reading this thread!

 

[catdaddyfro]

Thank you. Are all PBR considered to be from the Good Shephard line?

No, but this thread(GS BR) has a bunch of good examples and info about good Barred rocks though.

Jeff

 

[catdaddyfro]

I was able to hold one of the birds, a barred rock, at the Lebanon IN show, it was a solid bird, but you wouldn't think it was much larger then most other Rocks when they were in the cage. The fact that theyre using the breeder birds would probably mean that their production is better, because the breeder birds are most likely bred to be good producers of eggs, and high fertility, so that when they do the cross they can get the most bang for their buck.

I sorta see what you're saying or coming from with using the breeder stock, but Ive worked in the egg laying houses for Tyson and let me tell you one thing the breeders do not lay well(they eat well/lots) they have a bout 5000/10,000 hens per house(depends on housing size of course) and get maybe 500-1000 eggs from them on a good day this under controlled condition/climate/feed rations and also too Tyson or Cobb or whoever can afford this rate of lay(poor) because they have the means to pay for it, We pay for it, at the grocery store @4/6/8 dollars a bird LOL

What gets me is why add Cornish to their Plymouth Rocks it is not one of the foundation breeds that the Barred variety derived from? Hence hybrids to me, and for one reason to get bigger for the shows. The latest in Rock trend is get them big as Orpingtons or bigger, JGs maybe? They already have those two classes why try to make Rocks fit in there? IDK whatever huh?

Jeff