Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[catdaddyfro]

The White-Faced Black Spanish was brought to the U.S. via the Caribbean Islands, from Spain. "Spanish are the oldest breed of chickens that exist in the United States today.
Originally Posted by NYREDS



Out of curiosity who are you quoting here?

I too was wondering the source of this info too sounds a little off to me.

Most of our American class of chickens were developed from the surrounding/area breeds/types of chickens in the local regions during that time and there are a lot that have Gamefowl in their backgrounds. I don't know of any of the Amer. class that have any white-face black spanish in them(not as one of the original/dominant influentual breeds that is)?

I would dare to say that the white faced black is a breed just as the leghorns and a lot of today's known breeds were developed from 'dunghill gamefowl' centuries ago.

Jeff

 

[Chris09]

The White-Faced Black Spanish was brought to the U.S. via the Caribbean Islands, from Spain. "Spanish are the oldest breed of chickens that exist in the United States today."

Gamefowl were in the U.S. before the White-Face Black Spanish..
Gamefowl were brought to the "new land" by every race of settlers and gamefowl was even on the first ship to settle in the U.S.,
In fact Spanish Gamefowl (not the White-Face Black Spanish) may have been here before that since the Spanish brought there Gamefowl with them when they conquered Mexico.


Chris

 

[cgmccary]

The oldest American Bred Breed of chicken is the American Gamefowl, Game-type fowl were the first breeds brought to the U.S. and I would say is closest breed to the "original" chicken would have to be the slender body type Gamefowl breeds.
Also keep in mind that the Jungle Fowl isn't a chicken although it is said to be the breed of fowl that chicken originate from.

Chris

Jersey Giant Folk:
The White-Faced Black Spanish was brought to the U.S. via the Caribbean Islands, from Spain. "Spanish are the oldest breed of chickens that exist in the United States today."

I always believed the Dominique was considered the first (oldest) North American (or U.S.) breed _ I even have an ALBC t-shirt that makes that claim (LOL).

 

[Chris09]

I always believed the Dominique was considered the first (oldest) North American (or U.S.) breed _ I even have an ALBC t-shirt that makes that claim (LOL).

I don't hold much truth in anything the ALBC has to say.

The American Gamefowl was born and bred in North America before the American Dominique was a breed.

The Bald Eagle edged out the gamecock by only ONE vote for being our National Emblem/Bird. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln and many other great leaders of the United States were gamefowl breeders.



Chris

 

[Robert Blosl]

It was the Rhode Island Red wasnt it Walt the first chicken?

I just got off the phone with Matt 1616 on our show this coming month I think the 8th in Pensacola. Going to have about 100 large fowl and some nice ones. He told me you where coming with your Buckeyes and I am looking forward to seeing them. I told him I thought you won real big at a show a while back with a male. Cant remember what show maybe in Ohio.

The Buckeyes are the bird of the decade in my book for a come back. Don and his team of Buckeye breeders did a great job. Last night at work I came into my bosses work area and saw six dark looking nuts laying on the edge of the table. I thought are those buckeye nuts then I thought of Grant Malone and then found out they where Christmas Candy. But I was thinking of you and your Buckeyes.

Here is a question for you beginners. Who was grant Malone. What state did he live in and when he shook your hands there was something in his hand with the hand shake? Know what it was.??

Urch has some great breeds and I hope many of you get some of them befor he retires some day. You cant ask a man to go on for ever.

Also, I heard last night Ralph Sheriff died in his sleep the other night he was 91 years old. A great breeder and exibtior of Old English Bantams. If you could take some of his secrets in breeding and apply them to large fowl Wow. He was a big breeder of pair mating I know that for sure.

 

[OSUman]

I still think Turkeys would have been better...

I don't hold much truth in anything the ALBC has to say.

The American Gamefowl was born and bred in North America before the American Dominique was a breed.

"The Bald Eagle edged out the gamecock by only ONE vote. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln and many other great leaders of the United States were gamefowl breeders."



Chris

 

[Chris09]

I still think Turkeys would have been better...

LOL
OK Benjamin Franklin.

Chris

 

[Chris09]

Quote Bob He was......................... Oh wate you want beginners.

Chris

 

[Kiniska]

I am glad it did not end up being a turkey. Lots of things eat turkeys, not so many things eat eagles.

 

[cgmccary]

Quote:
It's a nice t-shirt anyway & I like Dominiques ( I am growing up two pair I got from Slomski for my friend Roy but I am really liking looking at them so Roy had better get them soon)- I think I'll wear my ALBC t-shirt in Pensacola-- ought to be warmer down there, t-shirt weather.

If you were talking about all the americas-- what about the South American land races, or the aucana and the breeds probably brought there by the Polynesians. I know the Polynesians had chickens on Hawaii probably hundreds of years ago or a thousand years ago when they settled the islands -- those birds became a jungle fowl, now called the Moa (a type of jungle fowl in their own right). When I hiked in the mountains in Kaui on my trips there, I would often run across a Moa pair in the jungle, and the hen would have chicks-- really cool seeing them in the wild like that. http://islandbreath.org/2006Year/17-nature/0617-08Moa.html

Technically Hawaii is U.S, so the Moa, the oldest U.S. fowl?