Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[rodriguezpoultry]

That's why I was a little concerned! All of the wing feathers, so far, are coming in gray. The only white feathers that came in were the white feathers that come in on all of my birds.

 

[thedragonlady]

They would do all right but I think it takes about three years for a strain like mine to adjust to a new climate like yours. It would be better to get a strain of Rose Combs from the Judge in Maine or Single Combs from New York Reds or Don Nelson or his friend who has his birds. The reason they are rip and ready to take on this super cold climate. On the other hand if you live in Texas or Oklahoma I think Lloyd Flanagan line from Texas would be good and ready for that climate.

If not then a box of ten started chicks leaves Alabama and heads to tim buck two and they will do fine.

My white rocks adjusted in time in Minnesota after three years and now live in South Dacota and now up in Canada. You just raise 40 or so and keep the best ones and plow away the next year.

In regards to Zeloties he was a master conditioner and could take my White Rock and Red male and show them four or five times and when very well with them. He showed one year a White Rock male I think 5 times and beat Shelby Harrington four times out of the five with just one male. Shelby's showed five fresh males at each of the five shows. I was proud of that. Again I got the male from Mr. Brown in California he would tell the guys , but when I saw his picture in Poultry Press I told my wife that's my boy.

When it comes to a Standard Breed exibtior and judge there was none better than JudgeWilbur Stauffer from Ohio. He could come to your house with a flash night at night and pick champions off your roost. He was one of the top string men in history when he would make the fair tours. I meet him and talked with him for hours at the Knoxville Far when I lived there befor I moved down here. One day I cam to the show and half the birds where gone. The Sectary said Wilbur had to head to a new Fair we let him go so he can get a head start.

I watched him judge the first show I attended at Muscle Skoals Alabama and he could judge like a egg beater. I never saw a judge so fast as Wilbur. He did not need much time to pick the birds he was judging. He had one heck of a eye but most String man who have the experience over the years did also. Her is a question for a pair of purple frizzle seromas.

What was Wilbur Stauffer fathers name and what breed of large fowl was he famous for?

bob

Bob,
Another gent from Knoxville with one heck of an eye was Bob James . He , Wilbur, and the other boys were always on the steps, or sitting on the benches inside talking chicken. Bet you spent some time there too !

 

[thedragonlady]

They would do all right but I think it takes about three years for a strain like mine to adjust to a new climate like yours. It would be better to get a strain of Rose Combs from the Judge in Maine or Single Combs from New York Reds or Don Nelson or his friend who has his birds. The reason they are rip and ready to take on this super cold climate. On the other hand if you live in Texas or Oklahoma I think Lloyd Flanagan line from Texas would be good and ready for that climate.

If not then a box of ten started chicks leaves Alabama and heads to tim buck two and they will do fine.

My white rocks adjusted in time in Minnesota after three years and now live in South Dacota and now up in Canada. You just raise 40 or so and keep the best ones and plow away the next year.

In regards to Zeloties he was a master conditioner and could take my White Rock and Red male and show them four or five times and when very well with them. He showed one year a White Rock male I think 5 times and beat Shelby Harrington four times out of the five with just one male. Shelby's showed five fresh males at each of the five shows. I was proud of that. Again I got the male from Mr. Brown in California he would tell the guys , but when I saw his picture in Poultry Press I told my wife that's my boy.

When it comes to a Standard Breed exibtior and judge there was none better than JudgeWilbur Stauffer from Ohio. He could come to your house with a flash night at night and pick champions off your roost. He was one of the top string men in history when he would make the fair tours. I meet him and talked with him for hours at the Knoxville Far when I lived there befor I moved down here. One day I cam to the show and half the birds where gone. The Sectary said Wilbur had to head to a new Fair we let him go so he can get a head start.

I watched him judge the first show I attended at Muscle Skoals Alabama and he could judge like a egg beater. I never saw a judge so fast as Wilbur. He did not need much time to pick the birds he was judging. He had one heck of a eye but most String man who have the experience over the years did also. Her is a question for a pair of purple frizzle seromas.

What was Wilbur Stauffer fathers name and what breed of large fowl was he famous for?

bob

I remember Wilbur talking about his father's Muscovies , but darned if I can remember his father's name.

 

[BarnGoddess01]

That's why I was a little concerned! All of the wing feathers, so far, are coming in gray. The only white feathers that came in were the white feathers that come in on all of my birds.

How old are the chicks? Is the whole hatch grey like these or do you have some yellow ones as well?

 

[Robert Blosl]

I am going to send you one Purple Frizzle Seroma in a box. Elton was his name.

Legorns was his chicken Chis but let paint some color on them.

You are a great student of history.

Bob James was a great judge and eye and always had judging gigs.

There is another guy who was part of that click. He was from Eladarado Arkansas

My white leghorns I have came from him. His name was JB Hellald or Harrlell boy I can get it to come to the surface.He had a good eye.

Worked the night shift last night and brain dead. Going out to the back where the still is and drink some of that clear looking stuff maybe it will make my brain work better.

Took a bunch of pictures today for a fellow on the west coast of my Legrons and Rock bantams. Took some pictures of my big rocks.

They are having hang over day becasue they thought the world was coming to a end. They would not stand still.

bob

http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/24276602

I posted some pictures for a fellow from Washington to look at. Have some pictues of my white rocks in the pen large fowl ckls.

Buff Brahma ckl came out nice a bantam and New York Reds II has to shots. All did not want to stand still was a very bad day to take pictures. They think the world should have came to a end yesterday. bob

 

[Pozees]

There are a couple of people in Colorado wanting to know whether there are SOP RIR breeders in or near our state. One person wants to ship eggs and believes shipping from similar elevation will give the best hatch rate (I've never shipped eggs, so I have no idea, but it makes sense), and I think the other wants chicks. Anyone here have a recommendation?

 

[thedragonlady]

I am going to send you one Purple Frizzle Seroma in a box. Elton was his name.

Legorns was his chicken Chis but let paint some color on them.

You are a great student of history.

Bob James was a great judge and eye and always had judging gigs.

There is another guy who was part of that click. He was from Eladarado Arkansas

My white leghorns I have came from him. His name was JB Hellald or Harrlell boy I can get it to come to the surface.He had a good eye.

Worked the night shift last night and brain dead. Going out to the back where the still is and drink some of that clear looking stuff maybe it will make my brain work better.

Took a bunch of pictures today for a fellow on the west coast of my Legrons and Rock bantams. Took some pictures of my big rocks.

They are having hang over day becasue they thought the world was coming to a end. They would not stand still.

bob

http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/24276602

I posted some pictures for a fellow from Washington to look at. Have some pictues of my white rocks in the pen large fowl ckls.

Buff Brahma ckl came out nice a bantam and New York Reds II has to shots. All did not want to stand still was a very bad day to take pictures. They think the world should have came to a end yesterday. bob

The first time I went into the show barn in Knoxville during the fair, I was asked if I was looking for my husband. There were NO women in there..just a bunch of guys whittling, and spitting, sitting on the benches.I asked if I could look at the birds. "Oh, your boy has birds?" Nope. I have birds. That flustered them, so they called Bob and Wilbur. I knew Bob from dog shows. They took me under their wing, but it was 3 years, or more, before I was invited to"sit a spell" with the boys on those benches. Those were fun days.

You can keep the purple frizzle whatever !

 

[Arielle]

THanks BOb, as always you give me lots to think about. My family is from Maine so I do know the climate there is colder, though the coastal area is more foggy and damp. Here the prevailing weather has been rainier than usual at the start of this winter, and last summer was far warmer than the past years.

How do RIR hold up to the endless rain? OR does it depend on the line? IS the feathering a little different between lines to cope with the local weather?? Earlier there were pics of Orps with tighter feathering about the legs, pantaloons being the more usual fashion--how does this difference effect a birds survivability?

While this doesn't address survivability--but Walt did have a partial answer that I found now that I am catching up on the fast paced thread!! "Back in the day they did not have these large "beasts" they have now. When a chicken is made bigger than it should be, the legs go first and then the type. if you look at some of the monster Rocks being shown they really don't have the type that the proper sized birds have......they are just big and imposing. When I see Orps that look like like Cochins with tiny heads, I just wonder what people are thinking. Read the description of an Orp. It has to have a tail and you have to be able to see it's hocks and that is what the SOP says, but people are turning out these fluff balls and calling them Orps." Walt

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

These chicks are nearly a week old. There were some yellow chicks in the bunch as well, but these were overwhelmingly the majority. Usually they feather in completely normal without any issue of this gray. If they do have gray it is only on the very tip of the primaries. It doesn't usually extend into the rest of the wing or body.

 

[MrsMoonCat]

While this doesn't address survivability--but Walt did have a partial answer that I found now that I am catching up on the fast paced thread!! "Back in the day they did not have these large "beasts" they have now. When a chicken is made bigger than it should be, the legs go first and then the type. if you look at some of the monster Rocks being shown they really don't have the type that the proper sized birds have......they are just big and imposing. When I see Orps that look like like Cochins with tiny heads, I just wonder what people are thinking. Read the description of an Orp. It has to have a tail and you have to be able to see it's hocks and that is what the SOP says, but people are turning out these fluff balls and calling them Orps." Walt

Lurker putting my two cents in here. THIS is exactly why it is so critical for those of us who are newer to the poultry world to be sure to have the SOP on hand and refer to it religiously, over and over. If people are just basing their breeding/collecting projects on what they are seeing at the shows, they aren't necessarily seeing birds bred to the written standard.

Like Carolyn, I am also working on my Andalusians. The first show I attended had birds that looked like they were small, solid tanks with long legs. They looked nothing like what I imagined Andalusians should look like from my study of the SOP. I just figured I had misunderstood what was acceptable and approved. Fortunately I was able to listen to the judge critique a couple of the birds for the owner and learned quite a bit about what NOT to do with my own birds. Mine still need much work, but they are getting closer to the standard all the time - and they don't look like steroid-filled body builders .

Of course this thread is also an invaluable source of information for all of us as well and I appreciate those of you with experience sharing it with us. Merry Christmas.