Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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Walt, I hope to and probably will set near 100 eggs. This gene pool is so small that I wonder what kind of variability is there for improvement. Overall, I think they have potential. I really like them. Size is a concern of mine. I also feel like I am in a corner.

I may have one last lead concerning someone else with these birds that could be a resource. Otherwise, I have found one person actually working with this breed. He is in California, and started with Ideal stock. Some time back Ideal got their start with this strain (from the same man), but they are not the same anymore. The breeder in California has been working with them for 5 years, so I am interested to see what progress has been made.

I say this in public, because I am still hoping to find that someone else. Lacy Blues gave me a lead that was not a dead end for once.

I was also hoping to find a couple people that would take some eggs, chicks, etc early on. In case something happens to mine. I have one person that I think something of. I am hoping to find at least one more. Someone that will actually put some effort into them. Someone that in a few years, I can get some eggs or chicks from. I would hate to think that I had the last 11 birds, of 11 eggs from Peru in the 80s. There are some people that will take some, but I want more than that.

I think that you are right concerning the black. It is that way with the NHs anyways. The color/pattern basics seam to be similar to the NHs. The Colombian is restricted, but it is there. The pullet in the picture is the least of them concerning color. It is told to me that I want that for good colored males, but that does not fit with my experience or understanding of this color pattern. I want to understand what that might mean. It runs contrary to my understanding of buff, or what I have seen with the NHs. Every time I think I am starting to know something, I learn something else.

Another question is how the color would be perceived by a judge. The Standard pictures are pretty light for a Catalana from Spain. They are not that light colored. I get the impression reading the written section that their tendencies was understood, but that an ideal was being established. I actually think the paintings are not that bad, but if I have to get all of the way there before they are perceived as pretty good . . . . Well, I would have a long ways to go.

I also want to contact Dale McNeill, the sponsor of these paintings. I would like to learn something about the man that the paintings are in memory of.

I apologize for the ramble.

gjensen, Here's a link to a page on the "Old and Rare Breeds" thread that tells the story of our newly acquired La Fleche. It doesn't seem necessary to repost the same long pasage here. The reason I bring it here, though, is because it sounds like you're in the same genetic conundrum in which I find myself, but there's something telling me that I can do this without bringing in other stock. Twice now I've outcrossed to other strains. Both times it was a pain in the neck. With our Anconas, which we outcrossed to hatchery stock, we've stabilized them and they are becoming regular winners. It's nice, but it took five years. Our Dorkings are still a bit all over the place. Their meat qualities are swell, and they're good layers of a nice egg, excellent broodies, etc... SOP point-scale-wise...mammamia! One day.

I mention this because it sounds that your blood is thin as is our La Fleche. All of our stock is derived from one shipment of chicks 37 years ago and wo knows what that genetic base is. Still, I have enough birds to begin a breeding program. It sounds that you do, too. If you could establish four or more clans, I think you risk being fine and being able to bring your Catalanas forward. You'll always be able to turn to Ideal or, probably better, Sand Hill for stock if you start actually seeing difficult in-breeding signs.

That's where I'm at. I realize that I'm afraid of the possibility for in-breeding depression, but I havn't actually seen anything to make me panic. If you're in the same boat, maybe it's worth a few seasons of working with them before bringing in something that might not nick. We could compare notes and belly-aching.
 
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Here's another shameless plug for the North Eastern Poultry Congress. I've just had word that we're up to 2445 birds and the entries are still coming in. The Sheraton is the sponsoring hotel, but tomorrow is the final date for the discounted price. Check out the website. If you've never been, it's a fun way to mix up the winter doldrums of January.

Here's the judges list. If you don't feel "up" on your judges, this is a nice list:

[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Troy LaRoche, Jeff Halbach, Clell Agler,
Jerry Yeaw,
Warren Carlow, Steve Beaty, & Jackie Koedatich
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Walt that's a sleeper if I ever saw one. Love it.

ETA,
I don't know if you have seen it or not but here's the guy (and his dog) that owns/races that truck in the second half of this video,

Chris

I watch all the vids of that truck I run across. They wouldn't allow it on the track that I race on.....too many loose things flapping around......lol
The sound gives it away, but who would think??? I love any sleeper truck...zero to 125mph in 10 seconds is pretty awesome.

w.
 
Here's another shameless plug for the North Eastern Poultry Congress. I've just had word that we're up to 2445 birds and the entries are still coming in. The Sheraton is the sponsoring hotel, but tomorrow is the final date for the discounted price. Check out the website. If you've never been, it's a fun way to mix up the winter doldrums of January.

Here's the judges list. If you don't feel "up" on your judges, this is a nice list:

[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Troy LaRoche, Jeff Halbach, Clell Agler,
Jerry Yeaw,
Warren Carlow, Steve Beaty, & Jackie Koedatich
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Nice list of judges.

w.
 
I watch all the vids of that truck I run across. They wouldn't allow it on the track that I race on.....too many loose things flapping around......lol
The sound gives it away, but who would think??? I love any sleeper truck...zero to 125mph in 10 seconds is pretty awesome.

w.
I agree, I love a good sleeper truck also.

C
 
I watch all the vids of that truck I run across. They wouldn't allow it on the track that I race on.....too many loose things flapping around......lol
The sound gives it away, but who would think??? I love any sleeper truck...zero to 125mph in 10 seconds is pretty awesome.

w.
Ok, that was cool! Is the guy with the Cattle dog and the orange truck someone we know?
Thanks,
Karen
 
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Walt and Chris,
Thanks for the off topic entertainment, it was awesome, and better than arguing over whether "H" is an appropriate term!
Boy you said a mouth full. A man and his dog what a team. I just got back from Making grocerys at the Publics super market. Me and the little dog in the front window and the bigger dog trying to be a german shepard in the back window looking at all the people coming and going in. That truck looked like a joke but it screamed down the run way.

The H word. I heard some one talking on the radio yesterday about what side of the brain they where using. I thought of this thread.

Right now both sides are tired. Got to go out and feed the birds a storm is heading this way it was 77 out side on New Years day a few minutes ago. Had to turn the heater off in the truck.
 
Ok, that was cool! Is the guy with the Cattle dog and the orange truck someone we know?
Thanks,
Karen
I don't know him.

Here you go Walt, (I would Love to have this truck) Nice feed truck.
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