Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Ok folks....I need some help. I have a broody Wyandotte that was due to hatch her first clutch today (Easter Sunday) and she was sitting on 6 Col Rocks and 2 BLRWs. When I got up this morning I went out to check on her, and right outside the box was a dead chick. It looked as though she had removed it. I can't be 100% certain, but it looked as if the chick was born with intestines on the outside.

As of tonight, she seems to be sitting tight on all the others that had hatched

Will a broody hen remove a chick that she knows won't survive?? I've only had one other broody do similar things and she killed each chick as it hatched....I never allowed her to set on eggs again. Hoping I don't have a similar problem brewing

Anyone with "broody advise" they can share?

Thanks

Well, I don't know how ya would ever know if the chick was sickly or weak (after finding them dead), but I do know I have had good broodies and bad broodies. One time I had 3 hatching the same day and every one of them killed their first chick, and one killed five!. Some were just dead and others were pecked up and bloody yukky. I don't know. I don't think chickens are really all that smart.
tongue.png
 
Last edited:
Ok folks....I need some help. I have a broody Wyandotte that was due to hatch her first clutch today (Easter Sunday) and she was sitting on 6 Col Rocks and 2 BLRWs. When I got up this morning I went out to check on her, and right outside the box was a dead chick. It looked as though she had removed it. I can't be 100% certain, but it looked as if the chick was born with intestines on the outside.

As of tonight, she seems to be sitting tight on all the others that had hatched

Will a broody hen remove a chick that she knows won't survive?? I've only had one other broody do similar things and she killed each chick as it hatched....I never allowed her to set on eggs again. Hoping I don't have a similar problem brewing

Anyone with "broody advise" they can share?

Thanks
If the chick hatches with his gut out he wont live so she may know this and did this. I remember when I started 21 years ago I had a R I Red pullet that was sitting on some eggs and my box had a two inch board to keep the straw in good enough for her but to much for the chicks. One guy got out and was looking around but could not get up over the board got cold and found him dead. I thought to myself why did you not grab him by his neck and put him in and warm him up? She looked at me like no comment. I latter hatched about fifty chicks in my little incubator so all well ends well. I latter figured out I needed a two foot by two foot box with a one inch lip and then I put some dowel rods up and down about every inch so the chick can go out and get water and feed and then come in if he gets cold and needs to warm up. I had water up high for her to drink and would put some pellets or scratch for her to eat. If I let her out of the box she or they scratch all the time getting dirt and feed in the waters dirty. Nocking over the feed for the chicks. Some times I would just put a 75 watt bulb in the box and enclose it so the chicks would go in and out on their own. Some times the broody would have ten chicks and I would give her five or ten more. Depends on the time of year and how cool it is. Right now I have a two x three foot box with about eighteen inches tall walls. I have a piece of plywood on top to go over the walls. I too a table saw and cut about a 14 inch or so cut in the large board put two hinges on it and all I got to do is lift the closest board up to get to the chicks and put their feed in a one quart jar feeder and a one qt water container I bought from the feed store. I leave them in there for about seven to ten days and ship them out. For myself they stay in the box for about two weeks then I have a eight by eight large fowl pen with one inch wire around it to keep them from getting out. I have a box in there like this one with a hole in the side so they can go out and come in when they get cool. Once they get full feathered they go to another eight by eight pen and they are on their own till they are bigger then I have to cull them out so they are not over crowded. I hope to do a better job this year with the ax and cull sooner to avoid feed birds that should be removed earlier to keep the cost down. You would think after twenty years you would learn this but so many times I want to wait another two or four weeks and almost every time I say to myself I should have got rid of them. The ones that jump out and feather and mature faster are always the best birds to show or breed from.

Heard a good topic last night on the radio from the PhD who has a show called Science Terrific or something like this. He was talking about animal breeding and the Alfa male ruling over the weaker males and the hormones of the female. This could be why under the fit of the fittest principle law in animals in the wild you get the superior genes and that is why when you wait to see your females after they molt maintain their youthful look they make great breeders and that is what Harold Tompkins was using in his breeding program years ago. Excellent topic and it makes sense as he was using this in contrast with humans and why superior smarter people end up having more children and passing these genes on to their children and grandchildren.

I was talking to a lady yesterday who has a grand daughter who took her test last week and she got a 100% score. She told me she is getting As on all her test top in her class. I said does she want to become a Doctor? She says know she wants to be like you a nurse. I said I hope she goes further and becomes a Nurse PR actioner or works in the operating room putting people asleep. This grand child inherited her smarts from her husband who is now dead but he came from a very smart family and successful business people. So heredity in looks, egg production are just good genes that you need to push on to the next generation of birds and you hope you will one day have the ultimate ideal flock.

The greatest compliment you can get from your pears is this statement. I was at their yard and their females all look like PEAS IN A POD. When you have this uniform balance on our females and their sons you have hit the jackpot. It takes a lifetime to accomplish and I hope and pray a few of you will reach this goal reading and studying this thread. If you have the passion to do this it will happen. This is a lengthy statement but I had two personnel messages asking me about what the heck I was talking about a few post back. I hope this explains it for you.
 
Last edited:
I received an email from a 4-H mom. Her son has been raising barnyard chickens and is in the third year of his poultry project. They now want to choose a heritage breed to show and have decided on the Delaware.

They found my website and emailed me for "true to standard" stock. I do state on there that my birds are a work in progress, being restored to meet the standard.

I would love to be able to help out a 4-H kid and hope some day in the future that I will have birds good enough to share. Right now, my Delawares are of very poor type. I'm hoping to get some better breeding stock myself.

They were also thinking about ordering eggs from the breeder that I got my Delawares from, but I don't think they will get anything close to standard that way.

I could either refer them to Kathy or should I talk them into an easier breed, like White Rocks or something of single color? I've been listening Bob.
smile.png


They are in far northern California. Any breeders in that area that you could recommend?
 
I received an email from a 4-H mom. Her son has been raising barnyard chickens and is in the third year of his poultry project. They now want to choose a heritage breed to show and have decided on the Delaware.

They found my website and emailed me for "true to standard" stock. I do state on there that my birds are a work in progress, being restored to meet the standard.

I would love to be able to help out a 4-H kid and hope some day in the future that I will have birds good enough to share. Right now, my Delawares are of very poor type. I'm hoping to get some better breeding stock myself.

They were also thinking about ordering eggs from the breeder that I got my Delawares from, but I don't think they will get anything close to standard that way.

I could either refer them to Kathy or should I talk them into an easier breed, like White Rocks or something of single color? I've been listening Bob.
smile.png


They are in far northern California. Any breeders in that area that you could recommend?

How far north Kim? I would wait until Kathy starts to release hers if they want Dels. There are a lot of other large fowl available in Norcal.

Walt
 
How far north Kim? I would wait until Kathy starts to release hers if they want Dels. There are a lot of other large fowl available in Norcal.

Walt

Eastern Shasta County. Is there another local breed/breeder that you can recommend? I would think that an easier breed would be better for a kid just beginning to show.
 
Hi,
Well was an interesting Sat. last week. Was out and about and saw the director of the local 4H poultry project.
He is getting one of the breeding trios for his kids . By the time he was thru enthusing about the breed, I had
been volunteered to do an educational seminar on the Light Sussex for his group, smile. On another note,
this current Arctic blast (flurries today) is supposed to be the last this year (heard that before Puxty Phil!).
Works for me, the chicks in the incubator are due to hatch that week.
Best,
Karen
 
Have no fear!!! They are being taught correctly. We are just selective with what we say. But yes, they are all aware. We are having a blast this year and really focusing on show quality and showmanship. Everyone on this thread would be so proud of our little group in eastern nc!!!

Hahahaha, wouldnt you know it, the very next morning after our discussion, my daughters (aged 6 &8) got asked the difference between a cockerel and a cockbird during showmanship at the APA show! They both stood there "duh duh duh". So back to the drawing board and lesson learned, more emphasis on cockbird, less on rooster. I really like cockbird as one word. Doesnt sound as harsh to the ears. I just find it extremely ironic that I chirped up about it and it came back to slap me in the face!!!!
Cockbird it is!
 
Ok folks....I need some help. I have a broody Wyandotte that was due to hatch her first clutch today (Easter Sunday) and she was sitting on 6 Col Rocks and 2 BLRWs. When I got up this morning I went out to check on her, and right outside the box was a dead chick. It looked as though she had removed it. I can't be 100% certain, but it looked as if the chick was born with intestines on the outside.

As of tonight, she seems to be sitting tight on all the others that had hatched

Will a broody hen remove a chick that she knows won't survive?? I've only had one other broody do similar things and she killed each chick as it hatched....I never allowed her to set on eggs again. Hoping I don't have a similar problem brewing

Anyone with "broody advise" they can share?

Thanks

I'm sorry to hear that your first experiences with broodies have not been more positive.
sad.png
I've often thought that the broody moms "knew" but I've also seen cases where they were just not meant to be moms. (I was attempting to clean up a nest late last summer because mom had been hatching for days. I was convinced we were done but she had other ideas. Came back 6 hours later and she was right. The final egg HAD hatched.) Very hard to judge chickens' behaviour coming at it with human eyes. I hope the remainder of the eggs hatched without incident and you find yourself with a good broody mom and a load of chicks. Nothing more thrilling than watching the hens raise them. All folks serious about chickens should get a chance to watch chickens being chickens.
 
Last edited:
I'm sorry to hear that your first experiences with broodies have not been more positive.
sad.png
I've often thought that the broody moms "knew" but I've also seen cases were they were just not meant to be moms. (I was attempting to clean up a nest late last summer because mom had been hatching for days. I was convinced we were done but she had other ideas. Came back 6 hours later and she was right. The final egg HAD hatched.) Very hard to judge chickens' behaviour coming at it with human eyes. I hope the remainder of the eggs hatched without incident and you find yourself with a good broody mom and a load of chicks. Nothing more thrilling that watching the hens raise them. All folks serious about chickens should get a chance to watch chickens being chickens.
Yes and even the not serious too, my company/visitors have a blast watching the goings on around this joint, entertainment at its finest, don't have to go anywhere or pay big bucks for it either, LOL

Jeff
 
Eastern Shasta County. Is there another local breed/breeder that you can recommend? I would think that an easier breed would be better for a kid just beginning to show.


I don't know any breeders but I would like to chime in and say that the results I have see. It is a good idea to let the youth take on challenges if they want them rather than try to move them to an easier breed. It requires delicate handling. Some kids will be discouraged because they will take it as "these people don't think I can do it, I must not be good enough". The approach my leader took, and the one I take when dealing with youth when their interest is in a more difficult breed is this: tell them that it's more difficult (while being careful not to suggest something easier) and if possible have a friendly judge or extremely knowledgable third party evaluate the birds (or in the case of chicks) the parent stock. This seems like a good time to mention I like seeing newcomers get adult birds, they aren't as vulnerable as chicks, and the quality is known rather than a mystery.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

New posts New threads Active threads

Back
Top Bottom