Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Chickielady]

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Cuba is considered part of North America the last time I studied geography: hence the "American."


There are more Americans than just United States Citizens!

Your limitation of "American" to birds only from the US is quite offensive to the other folks that share this wonderful landmass known as North America: like folks from Mexico and Canada: who are not only Mexicans and Canadians but also Americans in every sense of the word.

Wouldnt that also include the people from South America?

There are indeed South American Heritage birds, and they are very awesome birds too !
Those people who began breeding the jungle fowl have alot to be proud of, they and the Japanese , and Chinese (Asiatic) just about started the domestication of poultry as I believe.
That is where I thought the Cubalayas came from but I guess they were developed in Cuba..we did not originate them in this country.
Cubans have every right to be very proud of their bird !!

 

[Inkheart]

After subscribing to this thread and reading thru a larger portion of it - there is a heritage not many talk about and that is the Java - from my readings these seem like great birds - i love the mottled - are there not many people breeding these birds in the US? And why in educated opinion are they not as popular as like the Rocks etc. Thanks Knox

 

[punky rooster]

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It is hard to decide where to draw that invisable line on what is and what is not truly an American breed.
My ideas were that the breed originated here, breed by our forefathers, the pioneers that settled this country, not imported from another country.
But it is difficult to say what came west on a covered wagon and what was imported by airline in the 20s.
Then there are some "American Heritage" breeds that are a mix of other breeds that were not from here...like the RIW for example, this American Heritage breed is of White rosecomb leghorns, white wyandottes, and of all things an asiatic : Partridge Cochin.
So...like I said where do you draw the line ?

it is tough so it would be better for me to say they are USA heritage breeds

 

[OSUman]

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It is hard to decide where to draw that invisable line on what is and what is not truly an American breed.
My ideas were that the breed originated here, breed by our forefathers, the pioneers that settled this country, not imported from another country.
But it is difficult to say what came west on a covered wagon and what was imported by airline in the 20s.
Then there are some "American Heritage" breeds that are a mix of other breeds that were not from here...like the RIW for example, this American Heritage breed is of White rosecomb leghorns, white wyandottes, and of all things an asiatic : Partridge Cochin.
So...like I said where do you draw the line ?

Well if a breed was created here it was most likely created by breeds that werent from here. There are no chickens native to the Americas.

 

[punky rooster]

there are now all breeds are made by crossing other breeds

 

[punky rooster]

The breeds I raise are all US bred birds. I breed them because they have been HERE for a long time and they for us in the US are our heritage birds, and I want to have a part in keeping them alive.
punky

 

[Robert Blosl]

My Christmas present for 2010

http://www.archive.org/stream/atmywindowhoursw00john#page/n7/mode/2up

I found this very nice book on the internet today as I was looking for old books from the Golden Years of Poultry or the years the old timers raised and breed Standard Breed Poultry.
I thought you might enjoy reading it and if anything just enjoy the chickens that you have and thank God that you have a chance to have some in your back yard.

As I gave my ducks fresh water this morning in the cold how much joy they get from seeing me bring the hose to their pen and give them a nice fresh eight gallons of warm well water. They just go crazy as if they never saw water in their lives. What a joy to see them swim and bath in the fresh warm water.

I also got a nice box in the male yesterday from a friend who gave me a three year old Buff Brahma Cock bird and his three daughters this year which is from a Champion of the show desendent from the one of his cock bird Brahams four years ago that he breed and showed. We thought this old line of his of Bill Bowman’s was lost and he found them for me and shipped this male and his three daughters to me to mate to the females that I got from my friend three years ago.

What a great present and something I will always remember.

If you have faith of a mustard seed and you want something and put enough mental energy in that direction in time and for me three years your wish or dream will come true. Have a nice day must go to work and take care of the needy.
Bob

 

[OSUman]

Bob I had brought this up on a different forum but I was wondering if you have ever seen Rose Comb Orpingtons? I was reading Cooks book on Orpingtons and saw that he had created them and I thought that they would be even better in the cold then the SC and also it would be awesome to revive this breed/ variety.

 

[Chickielady]

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Cubalayas are classed as "Oriental " ? Are you serious ?
Cuba is closer to Europe (Spain) and Africa than it is to any Oriental country.
Did this bird originate in the Orient and then be imported to Cuba ? Is that how it went ?
You dig back into every chicken's past as each and everyone can be classified as a heritage breed IN IT"S COUNTRY OF ORIGIN...the only ones I can see that are not heritage is the new "designer" colorations such as the lavender orpingtopn...for example.
Although the Orpp is for sure a heritage breed, old as the hills, the lav is not.
So there are alot of us Americans, and by that I mean humans living in this United Sates of America (just to stop another arguement about people) that are quote "trying to save a heritage breed" when it is not a heritage breed in this country and in fact is doing quite well and not "endangered" at all in it's native homeland...for example, I would LOVE to get some Chocolate Wyandottes and Scots Dumpey...because they are wonderful heritage birds, delightful, and RARE...but only rare here, not rare in Scotland at all, in fact those birds are a dime a dozen there.
So me trying to "preserve" or "save" a rare breed that does not originate here, but is prolific in it's own country is not wise or necessary at all.
I would only be raising chickens from another country, that's all.
The Austrailians think we are nuts to covet the Bantam Cochins the way we do, they are so prolific there, but on the other hand, they would give an arm to have ANY Marans.

We went as far as how we could sneek them in ....

We humans always want what we cannot have, as the grass is always greener next door...and sometimes forget to water our own lawn.
So, hope you all get my idea of what is a heritage breed here in this United States of America.

 

[Chickielady]

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Outstanding ! He is beautiful !!!! You are so very lucky !!!