Just picked up my SPPR, he's in quarantine (oops I mean the bachelor pad) but I'll get pics of him later today.
Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread
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"standard bred poultry"?
Poultry bred to the American Standard of Perfection...published by the American Poultry Association.
Another term is "Pure bred poultry".
Learn more at http://www.amerpoultryassn.com/show_care.htm
"standard bred poultry"?
Poultry bred to the American Standard of Perfection...published by the American Poultry Association.
Another term is "Pure bred poultry".
Learn more at http://www.amerpoultryassn.com/show_care.htm
What is Purebred Poultry?
When you think of purebred poultry, what comes to mind? The barnyard rooster that provides the morning wake-up call? The flock of production hens that provides eggs? The roast turkey on your dinner table? It is more than this. Besides providing the useful eggs and meat, we see creatures of beauty to be bred and admired. The large Light Brahma with elegance and class, the spritely Sebright with beauty and energy, the stately Toulouse goose, the magnificent Royal Palm turkey, the talkative Call duck, and much, much more. There are literally hundreds of breeds and varieties in chickens, ducks, geese and turkeys, each with their own unique beauty and qualities.
There is no "best breed" of poultry for everyone. Personal preference as to shape, color, size, temperament, etc., go into a decision as to what to choose. Different areas of the country, with their varieties of climates, will have some impact on a decision as to a choice of breed. Poultry is divided into large chickens (also called large fowl), Bantams, waterfowl and turkeys. In addition to full size, or large chickens, poultry fanciers have developed a miniature counterpart of each large chicken called a Bantam. Bantams are normally one-fourth to one-fifth as large as their full-size counterparts, and in addition there are breeds that exist only as Bantams.
There are also breeds of Bantam ducks. Bantams produce smaller eggs and have less meat, and are generally not kept for production, but are a prime consideration where space is limited.
A "breed" is identified as having a particular body shape or style .Breeds are further divided into varieties, usually by differences in color or pattern of feather markings. In addition special features determine differences in varieties, such as comb shape or extra feathers such as a "beard" or "top-knot."
Select the breed that appeals to your taste, whether chicken, waterfowl or turkey, taking into consideration locale, space available, climate and/or availability. The American Poultry Association publishes a breed standard book, the APA Standard of Perfection. It is a book that describes all the breeds and colors recognized by the organization, and the standards or guide lines by which all poultry is judged. Please see ordering information on the Homepage.
When you decide on a particular breed, locating them is not difficult. Attend a poultry show and look the birds over, breeders will often have birds there to sell. There are many reputable breeders and hatcheries that provide birds in a variety of price ranges, from eggs to chicks to full-grown birds. Many breeders will welcome a visit to look over their birds and facilities and are more than willing to answer questions and provide you with birds, or give information as to where you can find the breed you are looking for. The most important thing to remember is to buy from a reputable breeder or NPIP (National Poultry Improvement Plan) member hatchery, and that the birds are free from obvious disease
and representative of the breed. In general, if the owner takes good care of his or her stock and is proud of them, you will have made a good purchase.
For some people owning and reproducing some of these elegant creatures is enough reward, but for others the show hall is the focal point--the true measure of the hobby's rewards. The competition of the show, whether it is a youngster in 4-H or an "oldster" in retirement, is a gratifying experience. In addition to the competition, it is a chance to meet and talk with people who share a like interest. The best way to learn about showing poultry is to actually attend a show--look at all the birds and talk to exhibitor.
To prepare a bird for show, the bird needs to be healthy, free of broken feathers, clean and presentable. Information on "fitting for show" can be found in many of the books and pamphlets available from the A-P-A, or simply by asking someone who shows. Add up the benefits of family sharing, friendships and the challenge of breeding hat perfect bird and I think you will agree it all adds up to a very enjoyable hobby. Give it a try!
Caring for your Purebred Poultry is really quite easy. Your birds will require adequate nutritional feed, fresh clean water and a dry, clean place to live. Housing can be as simple or as elaborate as you like. Some consideration will have to be given to the type of housing as you are deciding on a breed. Large fowl and waterfowl will require more room than the Bantam chicken or duck. A good rule to follow is one square foot of floor space per bantam, or three square feet of floor space per large fowl. Ducks and geese require somewhat more. Your housing should provide for easy cleaning and adequate ventilation (windows or openings), be draft-free, offer protection from the elements and from wild animals.
If the birds cannot be let out for exercise and sunshine, then provide them with a screened-in area for this purpose. If you have access to the outside, it should be well-fenced, dry, have shade available and grassy areas if possible. For the housing litter can be hay, straw, pine shavings, or any other absorbent material that is available. It should be kept clean and dry.
Fresh feed and clean water are also keys to healthy poultry. Do not let your feed become exposed to the weather, and protect it from rain and vermin. Change water daily and wash out water pans regularly. Commercial balanced feeds are available from local feed stores and come in pelted, crumbled or mash forms. These feeds contain needed vitamins and minerals and are available for all types and ages of poultry. Grains can also be fed along with a commercial balanced ration. In addition, provide grit (there are no "hens teeth") necessary for digestion of foods and oyster shell for laying birds. Let the birds out on the lawn if you can. They will scratch around, eat some grass and maybe a bug or two. This is healthy for the birds and provide you with the added enjoyment and peacefulness of just watching them going about the business of life.
When you think of purebred poultry, what comes to mind? The barnyard rooster that provides the morning wake-up call? The flock of production hens that provides eggs? The roast turkey on your dinner table? It is more than this. Besides providing the useful eggs and meat, we see creatures of beauty to be bred and admired. The large Light Brahma with elegance and class, the spritely Sebright with beauty and energy, the stately Toulouse goose, the magnificent Royal Palm turkey, the talkative Call duck, and much, much more. There are literally hundreds of breeds and varieties in chickens, ducks, geese and turkeys, each with their own unique beauty and qualities.
There is no "best breed" of poultry for everyone. Personal preference as to shape, color, size, temperament, etc., go into a decision as to what to choose. Different areas of the country, with their varieties of climates, will have some impact on a decision as to a choice of breed. Poultry is divided into large chickens (also called large fowl), Bantams, waterfowl and turkeys. In addition to full size, or large chickens, poultry fanciers have developed a miniature counterpart of each large chicken called a Bantam. Bantams are normally one-fourth to one-fifth as large as their full-size counterparts, and in addition there are breeds that exist only as Bantams.
There are also breeds of Bantam ducks. Bantams produce smaller eggs and have less meat, and are generally not kept for production, but are a prime consideration where space is limited.
A "breed" is identified as having a particular body shape or style .Breeds are further divided into varieties, usually by differences in color or pattern of feather markings. In addition special features determine differences in varieties, such as comb shape or extra feathers such as a "beard" or "top-knot."
Select the breed that appeals to your taste, whether chicken, waterfowl or turkey, taking into consideration locale, space available, climate and/or availability. The American Poultry Association publishes a breed standard book, the APA Standard of Perfection. It is a book that describes all the breeds and colors recognized by the organization, and the standards or guide lines by which all poultry is judged. Please see ordering information on the Homepage.
When you decide on a particular breed, locating them is not difficult. Attend a poultry show and look the birds over, breeders will often have birds there to sell. There are many reputable breeders and hatcheries that provide birds in a variety of price ranges, from eggs to chicks to full-grown birds. Many breeders will welcome a visit to look over their birds and facilities and are more than willing to answer questions and provide you with birds, or give information as to where you can find the breed you are looking for. The most important thing to remember is to buy from a reputable breeder or NPIP (National Poultry Improvement Plan) member hatchery, and that the birds are free from obvious disease
and representative of the breed. In general, if the owner takes good care of his or her stock and is proud of them, you will have made a good purchase.
For some people owning and reproducing some of these elegant creatures is enough reward, but for others the show hall is the focal point--the true measure of the hobby's rewards. The competition of the show, whether it is a youngster in 4-H or an "oldster" in retirement, is a gratifying experience. In addition to the competition, it is a chance to meet and talk with people who share a like interest. The best way to learn about showing poultry is to actually attend a show--look at all the birds and talk to exhibitor.
To prepare a bird for show, the bird needs to be healthy, free of broken feathers, clean and presentable. Information on "fitting for show" can be found in many of the books and pamphlets available from the A-P-A, or simply by asking someone who shows. Add up the benefits of family sharing, friendships and the challenge of breeding hat perfect bird and I think you will agree it all adds up to a very enjoyable hobby. Give it a try!
Caring for your Purebred Poultry is really quite easy. Your birds will require adequate nutritional feed, fresh clean water and a dry, clean place to live. Housing can be as simple or as elaborate as you like. Some consideration will have to be given to the type of housing as you are deciding on a breed. Large fowl and waterfowl will require more room than the Bantam chicken or duck. A good rule to follow is one square foot of floor space per bantam, or three square feet of floor space per large fowl. Ducks and geese require somewhat more. Your housing should provide for easy cleaning and adequate ventilation (windows or openings), be draft-free, offer protection from the elements and from wild animals.
If the birds cannot be let out for exercise and sunshine, then provide them with a screened-in area for this purpose. If you have access to the outside, it should be well-fenced, dry, have shade available and grassy areas if possible. For the housing litter can be hay, straw, pine shavings, or any other absorbent material that is available. It should be kept clean and dry.
Fresh feed and clean water are also keys to healthy poultry. Do not let your feed become exposed to the weather, and protect it from rain and vermin. Change water daily and wash out water pans regularly. Commercial balanced feeds are available from local feed stores and come in pelted, crumbled or mash forms. These feeds contain needed vitamins and minerals and are available for all types and ages of poultry. Grains can also be fed along with a commercial balanced ration. In addition, provide grit (there are no "hens teeth") necessary for digestion of foods and oyster shell for laying birds. Let the birds out on the lawn if you can. They will scratch around, eat some grass and maybe a bug or two. This is healthy for the birds and provide you with the added enjoyment and peacefulness of just watching them going about the business of life.
chickie,
The discussion about what is and what is not a 'heritage' breed is very important. Whether it is organizations or people, there must be priorities established: that takes time, loads of time. The action began years ago and has not yet stopped: just my opinion.
Walt,
I will contact Butch. Thanks.
The discussion about what is and what is not a 'heritage' breed is very important. Whether it is organizations or people, there must be priorities established: that takes time, loads of time. The action began years ago and has not yet stopped: just my opinion.
Walt,
I will contact Butch. Thanks.
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Any chance Butch and Don could come on the thread and post their committee's status? Or at least get some input from those on this thread?
Any chance Butch and Don could come on the thread and post their committee's status? Or at least get some input from those on this thread?
I've said this before and will say it again and again.
Limiting 'heritage' breeds to Standard bred poultry is an enormous mistake.
Since 1967 the SPPA has been about preservation of old and rare breeds of fowl. We have always recognized that there were fowl in the States that never made it into the Standard. Heck the Asil didn't make it until the 1980's and it's the oldest documented breed of fowl in the world. Plus, it had been in the USA for nearly 200 years.
Personally, I believe that one of the best ways to save these fowl is to get them on the show floor and into the Standard. Yet, to accomplish this with some of these breeds is nearly impossible because of the requirements. I don't believe it should necessarily be easy to get a breed into the Standard, but for breeds that have historical documentation I wish it was easier than it is.
Limiting 'heritage' breeds to Standard bred poultry is an enormous mistake.
Since 1967 the SPPA has been about preservation of old and rare breeds of fowl. We have always recognized that there were fowl in the States that never made it into the Standard. Heck the Asil didn't make it until the 1980's and it's the oldest documented breed of fowl in the world. Plus, it had been in the USA for nearly 200 years.
Personally, I believe that one of the best ways to save these fowl is to get them on the show floor and into the Standard. Yet, to accomplish this with some of these breeds is nearly impossible because of the requirements. I don't believe it should necessarily be easy to get a breed into the Standard, but for breeds that have historical documentation I wish it was easier than it is.
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Here are my duo of White Orpingtons. These are about as an endangered Variety of Breed as there is. I have more fingers on one hand then there are breeders of high quality White Orpingtons who show. We're lucky here on BYC to have one breeder. And it isn't me.
My birds are someone else's second tier in quality White Orp pair. While there are some very nice traits, there are as much to work on still.
Again this thread is to help those of us resurrect the Old Time breeds. And when you only have less then a handful of breeder's into a given variety of breed. You must realize it takes years to breed up the size, type and remove undesired traits. The more who raise the rarer breeds the more dice that get rolled to have that one in a thousand bird get hatched. And as equally as important is to use those tremendous birds wisely and distribute their offspring to ONLY the diehard, in for it for the breed's sake people.
Here are my two White Orps. The word is this line is different from those who are in UOC. I have hit up my breeder of these two for a reload in February. It takes just flat out numbers to resurrect a breed. I need numbers.
Another important factor is to have every White breeder helping the other. I have 4 legitimate in for the long haul White Orp breeders, who I hope to trade blood with this coming year. I hope we all can come thru for each other.
Part of the resurrection project is to introduce new Blood from other varieties. I also will be using this mix who is obviously showing Silver/White to hope for a different line of blood that still will be in the same family. Plus using the Buff for the same purpose. My attitude, is to build my flock as if I am the only one with the breed. I already heard the bad news that one of these long haul Orps breeder's lost a White pullet she was counting on. So, I am using any and all of my best Orpington pullets/hens to get this going. that means several years breeding out what I had to breed in to make the new blood. All this before I get someone else's Blood. Since I can not control what other White Orp breeders have going on. many are not very vigorous. I hate to say AI, but that is what I may have to do IF this vigor is not what I expect. AI assures these birds are giving every egg that can be used will be used. Hope that makes some sense of the urgency that this variety of orpington is in.
Here are my duo of White Orpingtons. These are about as an endangered Variety of Breed as there is. I have more fingers on one hand then there are breeders of high quality White Orpingtons who show. We're lucky here on BYC to have one breeder. And it isn't me.
My birds are someone else's second tier in quality White Orp pair. While there are some very nice traits, there are as much to work on still.
Again this thread is to help those of us resurrect the Old Time breeds. And when you only have less then a handful of breeder's into a given variety of breed. You must realize it takes years to breed up the size, type and remove undesired traits. The more who raise the rarer breeds the more dice that get rolled to have that one in a thousand bird get hatched. And as equally as important is to use those tremendous birds wisely and distribute their offspring to ONLY the diehard, in for it for the breed's sake people.
Here are my two White Orps. The word is this line is different from those who are in UOC. I have hit up my breeder of these two for a reload in February. It takes just flat out numbers to resurrect a breed. I need numbers.
Another important factor is to have every White breeder helping the other. I have 4 legitimate in for the long haul White Orp breeders, who I hope to trade blood with this coming year. I hope we all can come thru for each other.
Part of the resurrection project is to introduce new Blood from other varieties. I also will be using this mix who is obviously showing Silver/White to hope for a different line of blood that still will be in the same family. Plus using the Buff for the same purpose. My attitude, is to build my flock as if I am the only one with the breed. I already heard the bad news that one of these long haul Orps breeder's lost a White pullet she was counting on. So, I am using any and all of my best Orpington pullets/hens to get this going. that means several years breeding out what I had to breed in to make the new blood. All this before I get someone else's Blood. Since I can not control what other White Orp breeders have going on. many are not very vigorous. I hate to say AI, but that is what I may have to do IF this vigor is not what I expect. AI assures these birds are giving every egg that can be used will be used. Hope that makes some sense of the urgency that this variety of orpington is in.
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Any chance Butch and Don could come on the thread and post their committee's status? Or at least get some input from those on this thread?
Not everyone has the time to participate in these forums. I don't know what their situation is, but I am retired and hardly have the time.
Walt
Any chance Butch and Don could come on the thread and post their committee's status? Or at least get some input from those on this thread?
Not everyone has the time to participate in these forums. I don't know what their situation is, but I am retired and hardly have the time.
Walt
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Agreed. This thread is full of some awesome discussion and info for breeders. I cleaned up a few off-topic posts. Please use the "Report" button if you notice anything else the Staff should take a look at.
Agreed. This thread is full of some awesome discussion and info for breeders. I cleaned up a few off-topic posts. Please use the "Report" button if you notice anything else the Staff should take a look at.
Who has good Partridge Rocks? Did someone mention Joe Gillman a while back?
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Plus her avatar looks better than yours!
Seriously, she has raised some very fine Standard quality stock. I really do not care for the colors of Wyandottes you raise, but they were nice looking birds. Those HUGE SL males were wonderful. I knew who your rig belonged to before I seen the Featherauction.com sign on the door. Took one look at that SL male and just knew it had to be yours! Made me want to hide my Buckeyes and Orpingtons!
Plus her avatar looks better than yours!
Seriously, she has raised some very fine Standard quality stock. I really do not care for the colors of Wyandottes you raise, but they were nice looking birds. Those HUGE SL males were wonderful. I knew who your rig belonged to before I seen the Featherauction.com sign on the door. Took one look at that SL male and just knew it had to be yours! Made me want to hide my Buckeyes and Orpingtons!
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