Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[rancher hicks]

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So I decided to follow another posting. One of the problems I was told about poultry is that there is no registration of birds like there is with cattle. I was wondering if DNA testing would tell if there was anything in the bird other than the recorded developing breeds? Since the breed was nearly lost how would one know?

I suppose with todays' digital camera it would be fairly easy to keep a photographic record of our birds. I just don't know how to judge the weight of my birds. Of course we could keep a record of the processed weight but does that include before or after we sever the feet and wing tips?

I bought size 11 bands but they keep falling off my hens during the ruckus so I have to order smaller bands. (I have no idea why they would make red bands but they do) I have blue and will order pink or white.

Take care

Rancher

 

[turbo]

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For some reason it seems like the better type the Gray has the worst the color and penciling....at least for me....I have raised some Grays with good penciling, but their type was not very good and ended up not using them in the breeding pen.

 

[Silver Spring Waterfowl]

Charlie,

Thank you very much for the contact info for American Buff breeders, Charlie! I will contact those gentlemen about stock. Good luck with your birds, too!


Kathy

 

[OSUman]

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heres a link to their website, http://www.admani.com/alliancepoultry/

thank you, now I understand!

Yep no problem.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Chalie I got your email with the posts and In regards to the color on the Gray Calls what I have is pure. Art Lundgren birds and he did not cross a bunch of calls on his strain to get type. Crossing white calls onto grays is the same thing as crossing Light Brhamas onto Colubian Rocks.Nothing but head aches. I am getting the head and neck type that I want o my gray calls its going to take me two more years to fix it to look like the white call super birds. I have a female hen with the ideal body and I have a hen with a great head and I just got to mix the right male with a great headed and bodied females then criss cross the breeding and in three years I should have a gray call female with a bull neck short bill and a body like a tug boat.

I have a few mentors helping me but when it comes to the ABCs of breeding color there is not a dam thing out there. I dont need pictures of what they should look like I need advise on how to put a female mating togeather . I think I have a male with a fault on his tail section called frosting and he will be the perfect female color breeder. He had the best color as a baby in the female color befor he showed me he was going to be a male. These males I think will pass on this rich penciling to their daughters and grand daughters. I think you will have to double mate the gray calls to get the color you want. I wil keep asking and I will have the dope I need in a year or two I will be a happy duck farmer.

Thank god thier are no lavender calls. Whites and Grays are all I can look at.

bob

 

[Jake Levi]

Hi Bob

I am looking for Heritage RIR breeders, preferably with Rose Combs, I am in Northern MI, can send through mail for chicks or fed ex for started chickens.

Jake Levi
Luzerne, MI

We are all in this together,
The Best Things in Life arenot Things.

 

[har]

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heres a link to their website, http://www.admani.com/alliancepoultry/

thank you, now I understand!

I too for some time was trying to find a animal protein in my chicken feed. I think I have found a really good feed but I have to order it and then drive a ways to get it. KENT layer is what I am buying and they are really doing good on it. Its got FISH MEAL in it and vegtable oil. I have heard fom other people the oil is excellent for them. I watch there droppings when I try a new feed and they are what they should be on the Kent feed.

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

Har, are you getting very many Buckeye egsg on the Kent feed. Our local feed store only has the Purina line and we are getting NO eggs. Will be switching to the ADM feed tomorrow. Taht feed store is about 6 miles from us instead of 3.

 

[turbo]

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Bob,

I have always been told that a male with white frosting on the claret breast feathers will give you pullets with better penciling...I do know that frosting on the black triangle under the tail of a male call will kill your color under the tail of a pullet. I look at the males background color when he is in eclipse..

Here is a link to Patty Pickards site that talks about breeding Grays...I believe that Jim Konecny actually wrote this and took the pictures..

http://www.faithvalleywaterfowl.com/gray_call.html

I apologize for getting so off topic on this thread....

Back to Big Heritage Chickens....

Jerry Foley

 

[fowlman01]

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Bob,

I have always been told that a male with white frosting on the claret breast feathers will give you pullets with better penciling...I do know that frosting on the black triangle under the tail of a male call will kill your color under the tail of a pullet. I look at the males background color when he is in eclipse..

Here is a link to Patty Pickards site that talks about breeding Grays...I believe that Jim Konecny actually wrote this and took the pictures..

http://www.faithvalleywaterfowl.com/gray_call.html

I apologize for getting so off topic on this thread....

Back to Big Heritage Chickens....

Jerry Foley

Good set of pictures. That is pretty much recognized as the way to do it, but it never seems to work. The best marked female I ever had was by accident and I do not recommend what I did to get it because I think it was a fluke. At one time I raised flying Calls for Rick Sharpe a noted falconer. He didn't want mallards because they can beat up a young falcon, so I crossed mallards with WHITE Calls. I chose white because it was a way to insure the young would never accidently get mixed into my flock. After making hundreds of these hybrids I had two come out looking like exhibition gray Calls. Super penciling in the female and great color in the male which is not usually a problem anyway other than the bib and cushion. These two birds had short bills, cobby bodies...really super Calls. No trace of mallard at all. What struck me was that it was a pair and far better than my average gray. I could have easily sold these for $300.00+ each, that is how good they were. I didn't sell them because of their background, but I did give them to a breeder friend. he bred them and got all kinds of junk, but never a properly marked or typy bird.

The whole thing was remarkable given the length of bill my mallards have and the white color. All the other offspring of the mix were easily identified and always had light or white markings throughout along with very poor Call type. I then tried mallards/Gray Calls, without any success and finally just went back to breeding for the falcon training. Never had another good gray pop out even though I hatched hundreds of these hybrids.

Walt