Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[punky rooster]

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Very nice Birds thanks for the great pictures.

Good luck with the birds
Charlie

Yes very nice

 

[Chris09]

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But what breed in the Whites background is going to give you that upright stance? (Cochin, Wyandotte or Leghorn)

Chris

For what it is worth none of those breeds will give the upright stance. The main difference between the Whites and Reds that I have found is that the Whites are a little less docile in temperament and I attributed this to the Leghorn in them.

I bred Rhode Island Whites for 7 years. My stock came from Duane Urch. That rooster either has something crossed into him or is not healthy in some way if he is usually upright as he is in the picture.

A standard bred Rhode Island White that is of a good blood line is going to look just like the picture Chris put up only with a rose comb and should be about an inch shorter than a Single Comb Rhode Island Red. It should be 8 to 9 1/2 lbs at full grown.

My opinion as a former Rhode Island White breeder MOT appears to have something crossed in or may have gape worms which affect the windpipe or something else that is causing him to walk upright. He should not be walking upright like that all of the time. In fact he should look identical to a good a Rose Comb Rhode Island Red only white in color.

Good luck with the birds
Charlie

In fact he should look identical to a good a Rose Comb Rhode Island Red only white in color.

That is true. I was always told that the back of a Rhode Island Red/ White should be long, flat and horizontally.

Chris​

 

[cubalaya]

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feb.-march 2011

 

[Chris09]

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I think that they may have be out-crossed to a Malay (or other Oriental breed) That would account for the tall upright stance.
The R.I. White should be built like a R.I. Red and more longer than they are tall here is a sketch of a red but you get the idea.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_picture_236.jpg

Chris

Chris thanks for finding this picture. Tim Jurgeons and I put this togeather about ten years ago. These are figures I measured from my Rhode Island reds. First of a Rhode Island Chicken is to be plum. That is his legs are dead center if he puts one leg up in the air and stands on one leg he is still plum or level. When the bird is walking around the yard visulize the male with a coffie cup on his back he can walk around and the cup will not tilt. He stands level and he walks level all the time unless he sees a dog or a hawk in the shy he may raise up.

This is called station. The male should be 24 inches from the tip of his comb to the ground and about the same from the end of his beak to the end of his tail. You want t good lenth from the neck to the oil gland a flat top line. Look at the pictures in the poutlr press on the R I Red bantmas. Look at thier backs and notice the lift in the mid back. We call these red rocks. They should be flat all the time on the middle of thier back.

This male shows a tilt i call this a Minorica tilt. I had this about five years ago in my bantams and took me three years to breed it out. The old time red folks called these reds rainy day reds.

Never saw a R I White befor. Most of them are sold from hatcheriyes have wyandotte for the comb and prodution white rock for the shape.

I think a good strain of white rock large fowl with low back top lines could be crossed say on this male and then breed the best sons with rose combs back to the white rock hens and in threee years you would have a good type bird. Feather quality is important on a Rhode Island it needs to be tight non loose that is where you get that from the wyandotte cross.

He has a very nice head. bob

Hey Bob,
I have the Cock and the Hen.

Chris

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

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Chris thanks for finding this picture. Tim Jurgeons and I put this togeather about ten years ago. These are figures I measured from my Rhode Island reds. First of a Rhode Island Chicken is to be plum. That is his legs are dead center if he puts one leg up in the air and stands on one leg he is still plum or level. When the bird is walking around the yard visulize the male with a coffie cup on his back he can walk around and the cup will not tilt. He stands level and he walks level all the time unless he sees a dog or a hawk in the shy he may raise up.

This is called station. The male should be 24 inches from the tip of his comb to the ground and about the same from the end of his beak to the end of his tail. You want t good lenth from the neck to the oil gland a flat top line. Look at the pictures in the poutlr press on the R I Red bantmas. Look at thier backs and notice the lift in the mid back. We call these red rocks. They should be flat all the time on the middle of thier back.

This male shows a tilt i call this a Minorica tilt. I had this about five years ago in my bantams and took me three years to breed it out. The old time red folks called these reds rainy day reds.

Never saw a R I White befor. Most of them are sold from hatcheriyes have wyandotte for the comb and prodution white rock for the shape.

I think a good strain of white rock large fowl with low back top lines could be crossed say on this male and then breed the best sons with rose combs back to the white rock hens and in threee years you would have a good type bird. Feather quality is important on a Rhode Island it needs to be tight non loose that is where you get that from the wyandotte cross.

He has a very nice head. bob

I have the Cock and the Hen.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_picture_236.jpg https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_picture_237.jpg

Chris

Chris....any chance you have pix like this of Plymouth rocks with measurements??

 

[Rebecky54]

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Very nice birds! I bought 2 Buff leghorns about a month ago for my Buff Chantecler breeding project. Sadly, the RC arrived dead but the SC is doing fine. I have never had leghorns and didn't think I'd like them, but I love my little bird! She is bright and lively and no dummy -- she snuggles right up to the rooster once I got her out of quarantine.

Where did you get them? I'd love to have at least one more pullet or else I'll have to get chicks this year which will set my breeding project back a year.

Becky -- now a fan of leghorns!

 

[Chris09]

Yard full o' rocks :

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I have the Cock and the Hen.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_picture_236.jpg https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_picture_237.jpg

Chris

Chris....any chance you have pix like this of Plymouth rocks with measurements??

Sorry to say I don't. I been looking for some time with no luck maybe some of the guys in the rock will get together and make a set up.

( Hey Bob, Hint Hint

)

Chris

 

[Chickielady]

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I think that they may have be out-crossed to a Malay (or other Oriental breed) That would account for the tall upright stance.
The R.I. White should be built like a R.I. Red and more longer than they are tall here is a sketch of a red but you get the idea.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_picture_236.jpg

Chris

I get the idea of what you are saying. The birds do stand level most all the time, like the photo above, but when on their 'alert' stance they stand very tall.
I also misposted that they were hatched on Sept 27 of 2010 and it was August 27th 2010..and my computer is acting up bad lately, so sorry for weird/double posts..maybe it is this website ?
Anyone else having strange stuff happening ?
Anyway..I am going to try and get to Sandhill a message to find out where they got this breeding stock.
All in all, I think they will be excellent table faire.
The eggs are what I want to see.
Edited to add, that there is no gape worm, and these birds do not walk upright all the time, no no.
They stand up high at a pproaching danger or a stranger or me with bread in my pocket.
So far..Robert and I already discussed outcrossing with White Rocks, but I have no idea if I can dedicate that much time and space to this project with my health concerns and building a house, etc.
I will post a photo every so often so you can see his growth and type,
Hopefully I can sneak up on them and get a photo where he is not on his red alert stance.

 

[sewandgrow]

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The RIW expert !!

That and the Brahmas are never this big, and the Cochins can barely see eye to eye with him now.
See the fence ? And why oh why would I make up that he was bigger than he is ???
Do you think I am going for some sort of famous title or something ????
Ask Scraps !! Ask any of US that have these birds and see , but let us not be judged by those that do not have any and there for do not know and cannot know.
Most people could see the 4" fence sections next to the bird, though...

Ask Monkeyingaroundfarms.
Most of us that have these birds are getting to the point that we expect controversy, and we expect arguements.
A nice comment would be nice, instead of constant belittlement and put downs.
I am not stupid, and comparing this bird to any other is riduculous..why would you do that ?
Is there a herd somewhere that has been evident and there fore you know of and makes you an expert and there for you can belittle and call me a liar ?
This bird is exactly what I said he is.

I went to my first poultry show this past weekend and was amazed at how large the RIW were..........I never dreamed!!!!!
Get over it, OK ?
Why is the whole world so violently controversal about this bird ?
Sheesh !!

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

Please do not take offense when someone questions your bird's size. Rhode Island Whites are generally seen in flocks of production birds which are much smaller so birds of a much larger size are going to bring up the level of interest.