Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

[Robert Blosl]

Scraps wrote:
Well, I feel like a big dumdum. I knew that RIW's were hard to come by but I had no idea they were THAT rare. I have some beautiful ones I hatched out at least 100
last summer and had the hardest time selling them. Unfortunately, I'm down to just a few adults but I have a few young ones that I'm growing out and several eggs sitting in
the kitchen ready to go in the bator. Here's a few pics that I took of them this morning...
This is the oldest roo:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/scrapper1/riwdecember043.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/scrapper1/riwdecember041.jpg



https://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=69973

Found a nice site of Poultry pictures. Rusty has some nice pictures I like the picture of one of the rarest Heritage Fowl and that is the White Face Black Spanish. Look at this female. Excellent job Rusty. Rusty Hart (Irish Acres) Wish you would do a Rhode Island Red large fowl. Bob

Chick Lady did you get your R I Whites from Scrapes? If so look at the pictures of his birds. If they are the realitives of your birds then his station is normal based on looking at the pictures of his birds. New York Reds made a post on this thread and gave them a favorable comment. He is a tough cookie for the standard and for type. He is also a Red Breeder and can spot a brick shape Red a mile away. Based on these pictures I am sure these birds came from hatchery chicks. He said he got his start off of ebay. Did not spend a lot of money on the eggs.


I forgot you had a order for White Rocks from Anthony. In this case just hatch out the chicks that you get from the eggs and we will help you pick the birds for next years breeding. Also, if you keep this strain in your yards I would like you to show your white rocks at the washington shows. Also, clear off a shelf on your book case for some Throphys. You breed them like I have you will do very well. These are White Rocks that where hatched at Tom Durgans home in Centralia Washington 23 years ago and sent to me by Jim Volk. They are from Oliver Bowmans home in Calif which are about 50 years old since he started them . They will do good in your backyard.

I promise when you cross them on your R I Whites you will see major improve ment and all you got to do is select the chicks whose legs are first dead center plum. Then go with good Rose Comb heads, then work on leveling them off thier top lines or backs. I am afraid looking at these pictures this strain of R I Whites has a rainly day tilt like a miniorca in them. It is not the end of the world. You just will breed by selecting birds whos legs are in the middle of the body and then work on the top line you should get some good tails out of them or more fully furnished tails latter down the line.

I have a male that is half white leghorn and half white rock bantam. If he had a rose comb he would make a good R I White start in bantams.

Interesting subject and glad you are on Anthonys list. By the way Anthony has my old white rock large fowl line and lives near Pensacola Flordia. He has hatched more White Rocks in the winter than I eveer thought of. It is good sometimes to give a new breeder your birds. The have that fire in their belly to do good and I was just burned out and needed a new challange. I guess its like mountain climbing. Once you climbed a mountain you want to climb a different one.

bob

 

[OSUman]

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Im guessing that it would be dominate white so the next thing you probably should do is cross it onto some RC RIR bantams and see where it goes from there.

 

[kathyinmo]

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[fowlman01]

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I will be there.

w.

 

[fowlman01]

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Those are up too high in the front too.

Walt

 

[Chickielady]

Thanks all..but beautiful birds besides that, I love their heads and feathering. I also wanted to add, Scraps got his eggs off e-bay from Clyde Fleeman in Gordonville Texas, e-bay username is chocorocky44...............I contacted Clyde and he said he bought his chicks from Sandhill, and no other blood was introduced.
He has since sold the flock he had.
Oh well..thanks all.

 

[cybercat]

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Long and wide. The Rock should be the same width from shoulders to the end of the tail. You need stiff tail feathers, the wider the better to hold up the sickle feathers. Notice how many male Rocks fail in the tail area.

Walt

Can we talk about how to achive this in tals please. I know with many tails are a problem. Is this just body at tail being wider or is it feather based?

 

[fowlman01]

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Long and wide. The Rock should be the same width from shoulders to the end of the tail. You need stiff tail feathers, the wider the better to hold up the sickle feathers. Notice how many male Rocks fail in the tail area.

Walt

Can we talk about how to achive this in tals please. I know with many tails are a problem. Is this just body at tail being wider or is it feather based?

It is both. Width of body and tail feather quality. The body of the bird has to be wide and the tail feathers as wide as possible and as stiff as possible. All this is achieved through careful breeding for these traits. Barred Rocks are famous for "bunny tails" Wimpy feathers that can't hold up the rest of the tail.

Walt

 

[centrarchid]

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Can we talk about how to achive this in tals please. I know with many tails are a problem. Is this just body at tail being wider or is it feather based?

It is both. Width of body and tail feather quality. The body of the bird has to be wide and the tail feathers as wide as possible and as stiff as possible. All this is achieved through careful breeding for these traits. Barred Rocks are famous for "bunny tails" Wimpy feathers that can't hold up the rest of the tail.

Walt

I see the "bunny tails" in my dominiques as well. What is actually done to stiffen feathers? Introduce new blood?

 

[fowlman01]

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It is both. Width of body and tail feather quality. The body of the bird has to be wide and the tail feathers as wide as possible and as stiff as possible. All this is achieved through careful breeding for these traits. Barred Rocks are famous for "bunny tails" Wimpy feathers that can't hold up the rest of the tail.

Walt

I see the "bunny tails" in my dominiques as well. What is actually done to stiffen feathers? Introduce new blood?

Selective breeding or new blood are the only ways I know of to accomplish this. Some breeders like to find birds with extra tail feathers to help overcome the lack of width in the main tail feathers. This will also give the tail a good base. One of the most overlooked traits in exhibition chickens is feather quality. It is important in in backyard poultry as well. You would be much more comfortable with a nice new coat than one with holes in it. The feather quality helps any chicken in inclement weather. If they are weak or stringy they don't keep the rain off the bird.

Walt