Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread

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After writing this this was to give a big scope on what some of the questions asked. To me its keep it simple stupid. KISS the nuns did not teach me this in grade school but dont get caught up in all this mubo jumbo voodoo line breeding stuff. I will never forget reading a old Plymouth Rock Monthly from about the 1920. Mr. E B Thompson who was one heck of a breeder and winner at Madison Square Garden shows in those days did it this way. He had a big conditioning room with show coops in it. He would get a male that caught his eye and look him over very carefully.

He would take a tablet and draw a line down the middle of the page. On one side he wrote a positive sign on the other the negative sign. Then he would go out to a pen not related to this male and look for a female to compensate for his faults but still a very good typed and colored female. He then put her next to the male in the conditioning pen and then go out and find another. He he found one that was great if not he said the mating was done and over. He did this on many matings and said he had up to 50 matings for that year. Maybe one two or three females. Remember, he made a living raising barred rock chickens. We cant do this but we can have two or three per breed.

I never forgot this and told this story to Mr. E W Reese when I visited him at his farm 30 years ago. He said that's about what I have to do after they clean me out of all the good show birds. I mate culls to culls and then get more show birds for next year.

Remember KISS. It works in all works of life and also in breeding chickens. But most of all do not have FEAR of failure. You must be a optimist and look at the glass of water as half full.
 
I actually do trap nest when I'm collecting eggs for hatching. I want to know exactly which hen every egg comes from. When not collecting, I just take the doors to the trap nests off.



Could you post some pics of your trap nests? and any info you could share would be appreciated

thanks
Here is some pics of the first one I built. This was before I had the door adjusted properly. Above this post is a picture of that OP's bank of trap nests. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/567357/the-trap-nesting-thread/160#post_7576426

The pigeon doors have been suggested before, but I've yet to find anyone that has actually and truly used them for chickens. Anyone here done it?
 
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There is a natural reluctance about accepting an olive branch from someone who beat you over the head with it.
Best to skip the whitewash and stick to chickens.

So, how 'bout them Buckeyes?
 
Reading all these posts is making my head hurt. Poultry breeding is so COMPLICATED.

Without having known any of these methods, I've been doing a sort of modified Spiral breeding with only 2 sires. I have the problem of overall needing to improve type- plus all my birds have some sort of defect.

If I choose to go by one of the breeding methods, I'm afraid that I may double up on birds with the same defects and then never be able to get rid of those faults.

So... I'm assuming that I should disregard any specific breeding method at this point. ? Instead, I should do more like what Bob describes above. Breed pairs that will correct the faults. For example, breed the high tailed female only to the male with the lowest tail, no matter which line/sire they are from. ???
I completely agree. :) Well, agree that poultry breeding is so complicated when done properly. I like challenges and even complications sometimes, but this "breeding chickens" is a whole 'nother ball of wax. The charts confuse me to be honest, but I'm trying to figure out the right way to view them in order to understand them - hopefully I'll "get it" one of these times I look? lol
 
Here is some pics of the first one I built. This was before I had the door adjusted properly. Above this post is a picture of that OP's bank of trap nests. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/567357/the-trap-nesting-thread/160#post_7576426
The pigeon doors have been suggested before, but I've yet to find anyone that has actually and truly used them for chickens. Anyone here done it?

I have, they worked real well.
I had them on nest boxes and on some coops I had at one time.

The traps I used were like this one
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Chris
 
I completely agree. :) Well, agree that poultry breeding is so complicated when done properly. I like challenges and even complications sometimes, but this "breeding chickens" is a whole 'nother ball of wax. The charts confuse me to be honest, but I'm trying to figure out the right way to view them in order to understand them - hopefully I'll "get it" one of these times I look? lol

Is this what your mystery bird looked like.



Walt
 
Is this what your mystery bird looked like.



Walt

OMG that's it!! I don't think it had *quite* as much pink/red in the neck but other than that it's almost identical. What is that? Is it really just a spangled aseel? I wonder where the 'weird name' came from on the caption of the one I saw, if that's the case. =/
 
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