BOTULISM???

[Eggcessive]

She actually just started laying this week. 2 eggs so far. No egg is stuck, it is empty. She is 6 months old. She just tried to drag herself just now. I have had cocci episode with 2 week old chicks, they were not lethargic like this.

Did you check inside the vent with a finger? There is a temporary paralysis that can happen with egg binding. I would try Corid on her just in case of cocci. Better to rule out certain things to help find what is wrong.

 

[PeepersMama]

I wouldn't treat her for anything until you are fairly sure of what she has. Treating her with Corid if she doesn't have cocci could do more harm than good.

 

[Isaac 0]

Ive gave my chickens corid on a miss diagnoses...nothing happened.You can look up "does corid hurt chickens that don't have it" .If anything they could become more immune to it.

 

[PeepersMama]

Alright. I am no expert (wish I was), so if it didn't cause your birds any harm I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try

I personally wouldn't with my birds, though.

 

[PeepersMama]

Based on the chicken health handbook, she actually might have coxy. It says that there are two different types/strains of it: cecal and intestinal. The strain that affects the cecum usually appears in chicks that are 4-6 weeks of age, but maybe earlier or later. Droopiness, huddling with ruffled feathers, deceased appetite, pale skin, retarted growth, and bloody or pasty droppings are the main symptoms. It says that a postmortem examination will reveal a bloated ceca filled with boody or cheesy material, and pale breast muscles. The mortality is usually high, and it appears suddenly.
The intestinal strain can occur in chicks that are 3-5 weeks, but can occur much later. Again, droopiness, huddling with ruffled feathers, disinterst in food and water, and weird poop are the main indicators of it, but it also says that in pullets reaching maturity, thin breast, weak legs, a drop in laying and diarrhea are also common. It says that mortality is usually low, but it is still very contagious.

In order to not plagarise, almost everything in this post are the words of Gail Damerow from the chicken health handbook, not mine.

 

[casportpony]

I wouldn't treat her for anything until you are fairly sure of what she has. Treating her with Corid if she doesn't have cocci could do more harm than good.

Corid is quite safe.

-Kathy

 

[rebrascora]

I don't understand why you have ruled out Marek's?
She is at a prime age to suffer an attack and she appears to have two of the commonest symptoms ie wasting (you say she is emaciated) and paralysis. I know it's a horrible disease and we would all prefer not to have it in our flock but ignoring it doesn't make it go away.It is a very common and widespread disease, so to me it seems to be the most likely cause of her symptoms.
If she is emaciated, then she will benefit from a heat source... ideally a heat pad. Getting fluids into her is the next step, ideally with some vitamins and electrolytes. After that, try sloppy feed.... pellets soaked in water or your fermented feed with some scrambled egg mixed in. If she won't eat it then try tube feeding, but start with fluids first.
Good luck with her and I hope I am wrong about Marek's.

Regards

Barbara

 

[Isaac 0]

Its fine.I'm still learning too.

 

[casportpony]

Based on the chicken health handbook, she actually might have coxy. It says that there are two different types/strains of it: cecal and intestinal. The strain that affects the cecum usually appears in chicks that are 4-6 weeks of age, but maybe earlier or later. Droopiness, huddling with ruffled feathers, deceased appetite, pale skin, retarted growth, and bloody or pasty droppings are the main symptoms. It says that a postmortem examination will reveal a bloated ceca filled with boody or cheesy material, and pale breast muscles. The mortality is usually high, and it appears suddenly.
The intestinal strain can occur in chicks that are 3-5 weeks, but can occur much later. Again, droopiness, huddling with ruffled feathers, disinterst in food and water, and weird poop are the main indicators of it, but it also says that in pullets reaching maturity, thin breast, weak legs, a drop in laying and diarrhea are also common. It says that mortality is usually low, but it is still very contagious.

In order to not plagarise, almost everything in this post are the words of Gail Damerow from the chicken health handbook, not mine.

There are actually at least 9 strains:

http://extension.psu.edu/publications/agrs-052












http://www.uoguelph.ca/omafra_partn...cteristics-of-Eimeria-species.asp?_mid_=26492

-Kathy

 

[PeepersMama]

Huh! That's cool. Gail only put the two I listed in her book

Oh well, made for much easier typing