Brahma Thread

[brahmabreeder]

Vulture hocks are a DQ in Cochins also.

If it is a DQ in them also then where would it come from? Do the cochins not have it bred out of them like the brahmas?

 

[aliaam]

This guy is blue. You will have to have a blue bird or splash bird to get a blue bird. Crossing LB to DB will not make blue unless one of them IS blue or splash

Even if one, or both, of your light, or dark, was blue, you would still not get a solid unicolor blue chick. They would likely be patterned closer to a light(columbian) pattern, unless it was a splash, then the neck,wing,tail markings would also appear white-ish, giving the overall impression of a near solid white looking bird.

thanks a lot for helping me. so i think i will try to get some splash chicks. Like the ones below.

 

[big medicine]

I think we agree for the most part, (most of my brain is following the NFL draft right now, not sure what to make of the Browns pick)

Another option would be to keep a pair of vulture hocked F2, and single test mate each clean hocked bird to it's vulture hocked opposite. Any mating that produces any vulture hocked chicks proves the clean hocked bird is a carrier. This would remove the mystery of who your carriers are, produce less of them, and clean up your flock quicker.

I just wanted to add, that would be a better idea, too pick up a pair of vulture hocked birds of a different color (like the splashes) for your test matings. That way there would be no chance of confusing the test chicks with your project chicks.

 

[Helen in the Desert]

thanks a lot for helping me. so i think i will try to get some splash chicks. Like the ones below.

Do you want a solid blue like the guy in the pic or pattern blue?

 

[aliaam]

Solid Blue would be preferable.

 

[Helen in the Desert]

what I ment to ask and pardon my ignorance is

what is Vulture Hook

If you google Brahma Vulture Hocks you can see pics of them. It is a lot of excess feathering on the upper part of the leg. Some one with more knowledge could 'splain it better...could someone post a pic of a good roo and hen vs a vulture hock roo and hen?

 

[Sjisty]

Again, example of vulture hocks in young cockerel - the excess feathering on his "elbows."


No vulture hocks -

 

[Habibs Hens]

thanks for the explanation of what it is but its raised a few worries

I have a brahma its only 7 days old but it looks to have a lot of leg feathering

when will I know if it has or not got vulture hook

 

[brahmabreeder]

I'm not sure when you notice them but in the UK I *think* vulture hocks are allowed in brahmas. I wouldn't take my word for it though.

 

[Habibs Hens]

I'm not sure when you notice them but in the UK I *think* vulture hocks are allowed in brahmas. I wouldn't take my word for it though.

I will have to look into this

but I think you may be right

my dad has kept chickens before me and that was 30 years ago and I was always with him that's what got me into it now

and some of my fav chickens mind you I was a wee lad then... I used to call them Chinese Phantoms

Chinese why I don't know but the phantom part was me not hearing the word Bantam right

I think they where pekins now that I know what breed is what

well these chicken had heavy and I mean heavy leg feathering so much that you couldn't see the leg shanks or even the toes and even then the feathers spread out quite far

so that makes me think Hocks is allowed here

but again would need to research that