Breeding Delawares to the Standard of Perfection

Hi Leslie,
 I sure would like to know what you found out about tighter feathering. It's something I wish to keep in my Light Sussex.
 Thanks,
 Karen


I read that you can do a side project for a trait like feather quality. Pick the birds with the best feathers and breed them; when they mature, pick the best of those to mate; continue. The difference is you only look at the one aspect of the birds when you're making the breeding choices (within reason?)... and eventually you breed something from the "feather quality" line into the "whole bird" line.

Obviously I haven't tried that yet ... I've bred exactly zero birds that I've had to pick out myself. But I think PapaDel's feathers are nice enough he helped with the F5s. They are fluffy but not loosely feathered. I did read some descriptions about how to run your hands over the bird to assess feather quality. I gather you can also tell some by watching them when they're out in the wind (feathers shouldn't lift too easily, even in fluffier breeds).

Then the rest of what I've learned about birds with nice feathers is about feeding the birds good nutrition, making sure they have good dust bath areas so they can take care of themselves, and also managing pests. You can include extra cockerels in the list of pests, IMO.
 
For Delawares, look at Eight acres farm on the internet. The lady had a twelve pound rooster.
 
For Delawares, look at Eight acres farm on the internet. The lady had a twelve pound rooster.

I believe thats way over standard for a Delaware - but its big
They are nicely marked and there is some interesting info on website
http://eightacresfarm.weebly.com/breeding-projects.html

"I have already used a 1/2 New Hampshire 1/2 Barred Rock cock bird over my Delawares to improve type and color. I crossed those back to the Del again and am now hatching improved 7/8 Dels that have the Del phenotype. Next side project with these is to use 1/2 Del 1/2 BR pullets (pictured at 17 weeks) to aim for better barring and the stay white gene to keep them from getting brassy from sun and age."
 
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That is interesting! I'm glad someone is out front looking for those improvement crosses ... and staying within the "recipe" to do it.

Not so sure about the need to make them so big, though. That's perplexing.

(I want some of those sky blue, chocolate & olive eggers SO bad!)
 
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I am following all the posts and am amazed at the great discussion going on! Thank you everyone for sharing their experiences! We are set to have our first hatch (F1) this Sunday (Jan 25). We are very excited!
From our training through Sustainable Poultry Network and judge Jim Adkins, always breed for type and then work on color. Regarding the 12lb rooster, yikes! Way over weight and those poor hens lol!
 
I understand- having the same problem LOL
I wonder if something like this would help us - its for plymouth rock but what are the differences in what we are looking for ?
How about some expert opins here:


I have been looking for # 4 to breed and should be looking for #1 - I have no idea where I got this but found it informative
wish I had a clear copy
It's an old book but it's free. Google/books.

https://books.google.com/books?id=v...AA#v=onepage&q=plymouth rock breeding&f=false
 

Yes - Leslie had posted that and thanks - keep the info coming

On the 12 Lb Cock - maybe she said that but it is not on the website - she says "Cockerels are weighing in between 7 and 8 lbs at 24 weeks."
Thats sound correct for my last batch of 7 -
taking out the dink runt and the Jolly giant the rest averaged about 7.5 LB. @ 27 weeks

I believe 8acres is a lady named Luann in FL and have heard she has nice birds - wish we could get her on this BYC thread for some expertise
 
Yes - Leslie had posted that and thanks - keep the info coming

On the 12 Lb Cock - maybe she said that but it is not on the website - she says "Cockerels are weighing in between 7 and 8 lbs at 24 weeks."
Thats sound correct for my last batch of 7 - taking out the dink runt and the Jolly giant the rest averaged about 7.5 LB. @ 27 weeks


I believe 8acres is a lady named Luann in FL and have heard she has nice birds - wish we could get her on this BYC thread for some expertise
Her name is Luann D'Amico and she is a great lady! I got my start in my NH from her and have gotten some good Delawares from her in the past to work into my previous line. She is an excellent breeder, will ship and is great to work with. We had a recent conversation and she believes (as do I) that it is much easier to reduce the size in the birds than to get the size up so that is why she is using a larger cock. One of the cocks of Kathy;s line that I used last year was 11 - 12 LBs. I used him over the smaller hens to get more size as they were undersize. That part worked, the colour part not so much :(
 
I need to get the size of my females up a bit. One my goals for next year, I think.

Pullet eggs, the few of them I am getting, are now fertile. I know because I made pasta carbonara for lunch today and checked. I had my first 4-egg day for the Delaware coop this week. Tough little buggers ... need to let them inflate some before I can consider hatching.
 
. One of the cocks of Kathy;s line that I used last year was 11 - 12 LBs. I used him over the smaller hens to get more size as they were undersize. That part worked, the colour part not so much :(
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