Breeding Hambars/Hampbars

[Illia]

Don't mean to pry but he has a point, and to me same goes with a couple Hambars I've seen. If they're aiming for a type similar to the New Hampshire (no red in the name) or Rhode Island Red, they need to have that tail drop by quite a bit in its angle, and add a more rectangular look to the birds. Basically a deeper body. Oh and get rid of the pinched tail in the hens.

Just sayin' - Still very pretty birds though!

 

[rc50]

I am no expert on RIR but to me that Rhodebar roo his back is too short and his tail too high...

Keith
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[cherylcohen]

thanks Illia that's what this thread is all about, great opinions and great education

silly me putting the red after new hampshire, not enough coffee!

 

[cherylcohen]

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ok good point, I wonder if it's the angle, but doesn't matter I'm slowly beginning to understand

 

[rc50]

i agree with Illia 100% but still one must remember that these birds need to be good at what they were bred for.. meat or eggs...
I had one Hampbar female from a hatch had white earlobes with just a tiny touch of red in them... she laid great.. but those earlobes stopped her from being a female i would breed from...
one must stay very very narrow when breeding to retain the breed... one would not pay 1000 bucks for a beagle and it not LOOK like a beagle..

but with poultry people do it all the time..

nuts


Keith
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[cherylcohen]

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agreed and if you are going to put the time & energy into making something great, it needs to be done with care.

 

[Illia]

My advice is to stick with New Hampshires like what Kathy has, but I don't know if they'll lay enough for you, - however they're still a really good start, being that they're the best line of New Hampshires I've seen lately.

In the offspring, if your Rhodebars will look like the rooster shown, try and breed out the big high set tail, the low wing carriage, and aim for a bit more body substance.


I don't know much on Rhodebars, but if one wants them to look and work like their RIR counterpart, one needs to get rid of those Leghorn-y features.

 

[rc50]

So Illia which one of these males do you like... ? or neither... ?

Keith
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[rc50]

here are some good web pages on about Autosexing breeds...

http://www.autosexing.co.uk/

http://autosexing-poultry.co.uk/wordpress/

Keith
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[Chris09]

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Here is two more.

http://www.britannicrarebreeds.co.uk/rarebreedchickens.php

http://www.harislau.co.uk/poultryintro.htm

Chris