Breeding silkied Cochin bantams to the Standard

Kya has hatched her 4 eggs successfully, bringing the 2025 blue band tally up to 9 chicks. Kya appears to have 3 Blues and 1 Black, so no Splashes this year unless I end up setting one more batch from the blue banders at some point. This is from yesterday, but here she is with baby number 1 (and none too pleased about the camera flash 🤭 )

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Opal's chicks are 4 Blues and 1 Black confirmed. Here are some cute shots of her and her babies from yesterday and today :love

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And here are the red bander brooder babies at 3 weeks old already! :th

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I just set a second batch of red band eggs, probably the last from that coop this year. I hadn't mentioned anything about this recently, but those of you who have been following since last year might remember that I hatched a few oddball chicks from the red band coop that ended up failing to thrive and did not live very long. Well, I had thought (/ hoped?) that those were out of Bella, who has since passed on, but unfortunately one hatched with the above batch (not pictured because, like the previous ones, it seems to be failing to thrive as well). The only difference between the red band coop and the other two breeding groups is dietary; the red coop is on the same pellets as the others, but they have no access to greens like the other two coops do. So, the last several weeks since the first batch hatched, I've been gathering wild greens and chopping them up every day for the red banders to enjoy.

This batch therefore is a test batch to see if that work made any difference. Any odd chicks hatch in this group and I'll have to accept that it's most likely something genetic and that the red banders and all chicks hatched this year and last out of them should be considered culls.

If this is the case, then I've been thinking about it and I most likely will reach out to a breeder I came across on Facebook to see if I can get on his waiting list for hatching eggs either this summer or next spring. He has smooth-feathered Cochin bantams, but they are simply gorgeous. Following my rotation trend, should I go this route, I would take the best silkied male out of the green band coop hatches from this year and last year, and put him over the best smooth-feathered pullets from these hatching eggs to infuse some better type into my lines. Yes, this will mean having some silkied splits in the program, but I do think it would be worth it to introduce some very typey birds to improve my silkied birds more as opposed to getting more silkieds and working uphill to improve their type. I have heard that this sort of outcrossing could result in less improvement than expected, but I don't forsee it putting me back any further than starting the pen over will do as is.

Anyway, long post short, this latest batch of eggs will more or less decide the fate of my red band coop birds.
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Regardless of the result there, I'll be working on getting a grazing frame put together over this summer for that pen so that any birds housed there will have more available access to greens.

Oh, and I will be removing the extra birds from the green band coop this week so that I can get a batch from them set next weekend. I'm hoping if I emphasize like that that it will motivate me to actually get it done :oops:
 
We have 8 out of 8 of the corner coop eggs in the second batch developing! Tomorrow is the official day 7 candling, but naturally I peeked early :D

I also did actually move the extra hens from the green band pen this week, so I will have a batch of eggs to set from them this weekend! Aiming for around 8 in that batch as well. Depending on how fertility looks, I may set another 8 next weekend, too. Two of the hens that I left in that pen have gone broody, so we'll have to see on that one, though. :rolleyes:


And here's a cute picture while I'm here. Kya and her babies bonding :love

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Fertility's not looking too hot in the green band pen. 8 eggs set on Sunday and it's looking like only 4 or 5 are developing :barnie This is Sterling's first year with hens, so I guess he just needs more practice with his flirting.

I'll set another batch from that pen probably in a few weeks, just to make sure I don't have too many peeps packed in the brooder this round. I would like to get just a few more peeps on the ground from that group before my hatching season has to end, though. :fl

The second red band pen batch is still 8 out of 8 going strong, though! :yesss:


Obligatory peeps with mama picture to end this post:

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Oh, and one of the pullets from the May brooder batch sitting on my hand (and not taking any guff for it, either 🤭 ) :

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Just a quick update on the eggs after candling them yesterday. As I suspected from peeking, I have a 50% fertility rate on the green band pen: 4 out of the 8 were clear. :barnie The other 4 are developing well, and the 8 red band eggs are still going strong.

I just got home from a loooong trip to Ohio and home, so no picture to add this time--sorry! 😅
 
The only difference between the red band coop and the other two breeding groups is dietary; the red coop is on the same pellets as the others, but they have no access to greens like the other two coops do. So, the last several weeks since the first batch hatched, I've been gathering wild greens and chopping them up every day for the red banders to enjoy.

This batch therefore is a test batch to see if that work made any difference. Any odd chicks hatch in this group and I'll have to accept that it's most likely something genetic and that the red banders and all chicks hatched this year and last out of them should be considered culls.

We had 7 out of 8 hatch in this batch and so far they all appear to be healthy and normal :fl I will hold off on my final verdict until they dry and fluff fully.

The 8th egg quit just before draw down began for the hatch. I am planning to open it up later just to make sure it looks normal as well. :fl :fl

Anyway, here are the oldest 3 that hatched overnight. The younger 4 are still fluffing in the incubator so I'll grab a picture of them in a bit when I move them to the brooder. 🙂 At least one of these three is Blue, not sure on the other two yet.

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Here are the other 4 babies, freshly leg banded and just before being moved to the brooder. Look at this set of grouches! 🤭

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I did open up the quitter and it also looks like a healthy chick, simply malpositioned so it couldn't hatch. It's like its head got caught between its feet and it couldn't position properly for hatch, poor baby. But, it looks normal, as do all 7 of the live chicks that made it to hatch.

Does this mean for sure that the odd chicks were caused by some kind of nutritional deficiency and not something genetic? I'm not sure I've hatched enough to conclude that beyond a doubt. But about 1 in 4 chicks was hatching odd between this year and last year before I supplemented that coop with greens to see if there was a dietary deficiency, so odds are relatively low that we wouldn't have seen at least one in this batch after supplement if it was unrelated to diet... 🤔

For now, Gus and his girls stay in the program. That's likely the last batch I'll set out of them this year in the interest of not overwhelming myself before classes pick up again in the fall, but I'll have to remember to supplement them with greens next year before hatching again and see if the results are similar.

Anyway, it was the day 14 candling for Sterling's first group of chicks today and the 4 that were developing are looking strong still. They're due next weekend! :wee
 
Another hatch done, 4 new peeps out overnight. Very excited about these babies, y'all! Look at these gorgeous Blues out of Sterling!! 😍 :love

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I'm looking forward to seeing how they feather in. Hopefully they're a nice, lighter-toned Blue like their chick down implies. I've been hoping to achieve that with these Cochins since the get go! :fl
 

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