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brother/sister mating ok?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by fivestring, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. fivestring

    fivestring Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 15, 2008
    Nashville Georgia
    I am wondering about who should mate with who.

    I have a handful of RIRs, for instance. If I wanted to hatch out more reds, would the eggs from a bro/sis be good ones? Or do I need to go looking for a different bloodline roo, etc?

    I used the RIR for an example. I would like to know about (in)breeding for various breeds, BR, BO, Polish, etc...
  2. horsejody

    horsejody Squeaky Wheel

    Feb 11, 2008
    Waterloo, Nebraska
    I would look for a different blood line. I have heard that brother/sister mating could bring out recessive genes with a higher chance of getting health problems and/or deformities. JMHO
  3. Clay In Iowa

    Clay In Iowa Chillin' With My Peeps

    Oct 9, 2008
    Near Wilton Iowa
    Quote:While that's generally true, chickens are a bit of an exception. They have been so heavily inbred for desired characteristics they don't often carry a large number of lethal recessive mutations. I too was concerned and then MissPrissy explained Line Breeding. Basically breeding birds and then breeding the "father" to the daughters.. then the grand daughters and so on. Yes you have problems and you need to cull ruthlessly but it can be done. In the end you can have a flock of birds that all look the same and breed true.

    If it were me and it will be soon. Id' do exactly what HorseJody suggested. Get hen or cock from another line and you will have far fewer problems.
  4. fivestring

    fivestring Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 15, 2008
    Nashville Georgia
    Thanks for the info, folks.

    I have cockerals and pullets of Reds and Barred Rocks. I wanted to be sure I was thinking right about selling off all the roos and finding other ones elsewhere when I want chicks. They are both common breeds and easy to find so it isn't a big deal to replace them. But if I could, I would have preferred to keep my known healthy stock.
  5. Clay In Iowa

    Clay In Iowa Chillin' With My Peeps

    Oct 9, 2008
    Near Wilton Iowa
    Welll... Why sell, Buy new chicks or eggs. Put your your Hens with new Cocks (and New hens with your cocks). Bam! 2 lines.... You could then breed more across the lines. Hens from line 1 with cocks from line 2 etc. Just a matter of how big you want the operation to be.

    It is always a good idea to eventually get new blood in your coop though.
  6. PurpleChicken

    PurpleChicken Tolerated.....Mostly

    Apr 6, 2007
    Brother/sister mating varies by state. [​IMG]

    OK, but seriously, you ay consider crossing a Barred Rock with a RIR.
    We have a few and they are BIG, healthy and great layers.
  7. jvls1942

    jvls1942 Overrun With Chickens

    Oct 16, 2008
    here again is a thread that was hashed out three days ago and answered by a very knowldgeable person..

    I have said it before, and I am about to repeat myself.. I do not give any credance to "I heard or I read" type of testamonials.. If you have first hand experience, I will not dispute your theory..

    you cannot imagine how much wrong advice is given out and perpetuated by what I call hearsay and opinion without experience..
  8. Laskaland

    Laskaland ThE gRoOvY cHiCkEn

    Aug 2, 2008
    Quote:Would you post the link, please? Not everyone sees every link everyday.
    Best wishes
  9. Clay In Iowa

    Clay In Iowa Chillin' With My Peeps

    Oct 9, 2008
    Near Wilton Iowa
    Quote:Would my degree in Molecular Genetics and 20 years research experience be at all helpful?

    God knows you can't learn ANYTHING from reading or talking to more experienced people. How many on BYC have actually line bred birds?
  10. AK_Button_Mama

    AK_Button_Mama Chillin' With My Peeps

    Dec 30, 2008
    Wasilla, Alaska
    You know
    its called line breeding until you get deformities then its called inbreeding!!!

    I think that the best way to line breed is to breed mothers and fathers back to thier offspring... sibling breeding seems to bring out deformities faster. (that is what it seems like with rabbits at least) some times it seems like a nessesity to breed siblings to get the desired out come but I would limit it to as few sibling breedings as possible to achieve the desired outcome. My personal oppinion!

    also how do you know for sure they are siblings? were the parents all seppareted? meaning were the eggs from a roo and hen in the same cage with NO other hens or roos? cause we know that hens and roos are not monogomus right?

    good luck!
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2009

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