Buckeye Breed Thread

[mrandmrschicken]

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Laura; Thanks for the info on the little... studio. I will investigate that in a couple weeks.

Anyone; Speaking of legs, is it normal for an almost reddish line in the leg when they are so very deep yellow? Or is this a trait from some other breed that creeps in once in awhile?

Thanks for any knowledge or input.

The reddish line down the shank (usually seen only in males) is a sign of vigor and virility. Means the boys are ready to go.

It's a good sign, so don't worry about it.

Thanks Laura thats good to know! How interesting. He definitley likes to play Post Office! LOL

 

[JamesA]

I jsu wanted to say that we are having flash flooding right now and it is raining in sheets and I look down to the coop and my buckeyes are playing in the rain.I guess this takes points away as far as being smart.

 

[Blue Wheaton]

A few pictures from Massachusetts.

Jay

 

[Pathfinders]

Jason, are those swans??? Awesome pic.

 

[Blue Wheaton]

They never go in their house, even in the snow.

 

[kathyinmo]

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Laura, I don't know all of them .... But I do know that the pink one is a Flamingo!

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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You will be happy with Jen's chicks. We have 34 chicks that Jen hatched for us. Rate was: 50 fertile of 60; 34 hatched of 50 fertile. Of course that was from pullet eggs that were set at Xmas/New Years Day. Am sure fertility will be better now. She also had the temp a bit low for a couple of the first days. We also have a year old male bird that my 8 year old son is working with for show.

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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This is one reason why Poultry Press uses a photo box. You always have someone get in a photo. I called a friend once and told him his photo was in the local paper. He was shocked. Never even saw the camera. Wonder if this fellow knows he is posted on BYC?

 

[Pathfinders]

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This is one reason why Poultry Press uses a photo box. You always have someone get in a photo. I called a friend once and told him his photo was in the local paper. He was shocked. Never even saw the camera. Wonder if this fellow knows he is posted on BYC?

Yes, I know that's why PP uses a photo box. But trying to get them to send me the pic is like pulling teeth!

And I do place an ad, so it's not like I don't pay for the pics...

 

[matte]

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It is not really geographical but more simply, a different & distinct population-- for lack of a better term: a strain as being different in their source or origin & unrelated and apart. To constitute a strain, the population of birds must be bred in more than one location by more than one breeder. Keep in mind this is by word of mouth. Those of us who talk about Buckeyes have developed our own groupings to identify the source- trying to identify genetic variation. We have just arbitrarily assigned the strains names ourselves from our discussions (and others may want to group birds differently using their own, their different standards, terminology,etc. [although "others" it seems have chosen to "copy" our terminology]):

Urch Strain: named for Duane Urch (MN) who got his first Buckeyes in the late 1950s and sustained them ever since, APA Poultry Judge, SPPA founder & just about everything else; most Buckeyes seem to have originated from Mr. Urch's birds. Most breeders' lines inevitably lead back to Urch's flock but many have been bred apart from each other for many years. Examples: Sandhill Preservation line; Fitche line, Empire line, Romig line; Stromberg's Hatchery (OH).

Brown Strain: John Brown (OH) first acquired his birds from a woman in Canada in 2000; believed to have been some Chantecler bred into them not so far back in the past. Recently, by Brown himself, have had Dark Cornish bred into them for shorter legs, thicker shanks and darker color. We refer to them as Brown Strain because we believe they are a different population from Urch strain and Mr. Brown worked with these Canadian Buckeyes for the past 9 years & for lack of a better name . . . Example: Matt John/ Shady Lane Poultry

ALBC Strain: Through the American Livestock Breeds Conservancy's Buckeye recovery project, this population was created using Urch strain, Pearce Line/strain (15 generations Urch strain removed) and Brown strain and was finely selected-- they have their own look and are the ones you particularly see in the shows (because the ALBC breeders worked hard on their size, shape and weight). There are many flocks of this strain out there.

Mean-as-Snakes Strain: Schrider talks about this group as being a separate population distinct from the others and in the hands of a few Ohio breeders, when asked about their birds, they said they are as "mean as snakes" and thus the name. They were described as being extremely mean in temperament & unrelated to the other strains.

Rhodes Strain: named for Bob Rhodes (MA).

There are some other strains, no doubt.

Many of our lines are a combination of these strains. My line has Urch and ALBC. Laura Haggarty's (Pathfinders) line has Brown and ALBC. Some are pure Urch; others are pure ALBC. Ideal Hatchery (TX) got their birds from Meyer Hatchery (OH), and we are just unsure (at least I am) of Meyer's source -- they have not revealed it, are reluctant to do so or they just don't know.

ALBC Strain birds can be bred to Brown strain or Urch strain birds to strengthen their gene pool with no ill effect. remember though, we are just trying to identify the original source as far back as we can, that's all.

Has anyone had any Buckeyes from Bill Braden at Land of Tobe poultry? Do you know from which strain this originate?