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[swtangel321]

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Do you know how long it was, I just used some to dust the coop with not the chickens on Sat, Does all dust have this time ???? Should I get rid of the eggs ????

Here's a link for The Problems with Sevin (Carbaryl): http://www.healthyworld.org/sevin.html
It mentions a scientific study showed that chickens treated for mites with a carbaryl dip laid eggs with carbaryl residue for 56 days after treatment.

Ohhh my..... I am SO worried now !!!!!! I used it to dust the coop not the birds, I'm sure I was exposed and I'm 6 months preggo !!!!!!!!! Should I still be worried about the eggs even thought I didnt use it directly on the birds ??? Should I see a doc ????

 

[kwynn's birds Alaska]

I have never heard of DE until I was told about this site. Where do I buy it? at a garden center? What exactly is it (DE)? I feel bad after reading the stuff about sevin, and I do not want to use it again. I did the whole house except for the nest boxes, I read somewhere not to.

I've done some reading about lice, and I'm positive it is lice...where could that have come from? the pedople down the street have chickens. Could the bugs just have found their way here? Magpies do perch on top of their fence post, but they are not in direct contact with the girls. I was pretty grossed out finding the bugs on them.

 

[Clay In Iowa]

FYI....

DE for pest control....

"Diatomaceous earth (pronounced /ˌdaɪətəˈmeɪʃəs ˈɝθ/), also known as DE, TSS, diatomite, diahydro, kieselguhr, kieselgur or celite) is a naturally occurring, soft, chalk-like sedimentary rock that is easily crumbled into a fine white to off-white powder. This powder has an abrasive feel, similar to pumice powder, and is very light, due to its high porosity. The typical chemical composition of diatomaceous earth is 86% silica, 5% sodium, 3% magnesium and 2% iron.

Diatomaceous earth consists of fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. It is used as a filtration aid, as a mild abrasive, as a mechanical insecticide, as an absorbent for liquids, as cat litter, as an activator in blood clotting studies, and as a component of dynamite. As it is also heat-resistant, it can be used as a thermal insulator."

"Pest control

Diatomite is also used as an insecticide, due to its physico-sorptive properties. The fine powder absorbs lipids from the waxy outer layer of insects' exoskeletons, causing them to dehydrate. Arthropods die as a result of the water pressure deficiency, based on Fick's law of diffusion. This also works against gastropods and is commonly employed in gardening to defeat slugs. However, since slugs inhabit humid environments, efficacy is very low. It is sometimes mixed with an attractant or other additives to increase its effectiveness. Medical-grade diatomite is sometimes used to de-worm both animals and humans. It is most commonly used in lieu of boric acid, and can be used to help control and eventually eliminate a cockroach infestation. This material has wide application in control of insects of grain storage."

 

[hinkjc]

The typical chemical composition of diatomaceous earth is 86% silica, 5% sodium, 3% magnesium and 2% iron.

Actually, the DE quoted above is chemically altered for use in Pool Filters. The Food Grade DE should have less than 3% silica and is all natural. It is important to know the difference. The one with the higher silica content is toxic to chickens and should not be used anywhere near them. The one with the lower silica content can be used directly on them and in their feed.

Jody​

 

[Mrs MIA]

K, I know Cadre sells it, but I'm not sure about the Si content. I'll have to check.

 

[ChickaD]

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Here's a link for The Problems with Sevin (Carbaryl): http://www.healthyworld.org/sevin.html
It mentions a scientific study showed that chickens treated for mites with a carbaryl dip laid eggs with carbaryl residue for 56 days after treatment.

Ohhh my..... I am SO worried now !!!!!! I used it to dust the coop not the birds, I'm sure I was exposed and I'm 6 months preggo !!!!!!!!! Should I still be worried about the eggs even thought I didnt use it directly on the birds ??? Should I see a doc ????

I'm sorry not to have answers to your questions and concerns. As far as whether or not to keep the eggs, did your nesting boxes get dusted with Sevin? I don't know if that makes a difference in your decision. I'll PM you...

 

[ChickaD]

kwynn's birds Alaska :

I have never heard of DE until I was told about this site. Where do I buy it? at a garden center? What exactly is it (DE)? I feel bad after reading the stuff about sevin, and I do not want to use it again. I did the whole house except for the nest boxes, I read somewhere not to.

I've done some reading about lice, and I'm positive it is lice...where could that have come from? the pedople down the street have chickens. Could the bugs just have found their way here? Magpies do perch on top of their fence post, but they are not in direct contact with the girls. I was pretty grossed out finding the bugs on them.

We had the same thing happen, with our chickens getting lice for the first time we're aware of. They can be spread from wild birds. At least lice is the lesser of two evils to get rid of, compared to mites.

If you can't find food grade DE sold locally, the best prices I've found for ordering online or by phone are Earthworks and Custom Milling. Even if you need to order 10 lbs, it's worth it and lasts a long time (we're currently using a bag bought 9 yrs ago). Some experienced poultry people find that it increases egg production and flock health, as well as its many other helpful bug-killing and moisture-absorbing qualities...kills flies in the coop and keeps down odors. Adding it to the chickens' feed (up to 2% of feed) replaces the need to use a wormer. Great stuff!​

 

[TheTeenyTinyFarm]

do local feed and seed stores carry food grade DE?

 

[ChickaD]

I did a bit of calling all the feed stores in our area to find out...I guess that's the only way you'll know for sure. I learned the hard way to be VERY specific! I'd finally get a positive answer over the phone, and drive over to find a similar product, such as DE and clay (very similar to Stall Dry).
Sometimes I wound up describing over the phone all the advantages of food grade DE, so at least they'd know there's some customer interest in it and maybe order some next year.

 

[rebbetzin]

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My Feedstore sells it in 5 lb. bags. I think it should last me for 20 years or so!! I have noticed there are no flies in the chicken run since I sprinkled it in there.

Maybe if you find them manager and ask if they can carry it, there might be many people who would buy it, if they knew how good it works. Take in an article about it, and see if it is something they could start to carry on a regular basis.