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was that black shoulder pair on the ground on the left side...towards the main road...if so....she was def...ill..her eyes were half closed....her wings droopy...i was really shocked...i also talked to spicer....and found out he is on the board of the mbgba....I went to the swap. Most the good birds sold early I was told. I did walk away with two healthy bantam hen but yes many of the birds were not that great. I seen Spicers there and talked to him. He is so high on his prices for the most part. I can get as good quality birds from a few others for cheaper. I have had a friend buy from him and the hen turned out in bad shape. Might have been a fluke bet never know. He did have some beautiful birds though. I was very picky though. Always am picky when I go to swaps. If they dont look healthy and the cages fairly clean as well as the seller then I dont bother. Its not worth my time or my flocks health. I left there and went to a small animal auction over in Clare and seen some fair stuff but still nothing to impressive. No peas at the auction. But yes if you go to sell your birds at a place then why wouldnt you have them in top condition when your selling. They should look pristine. I was also dissapointed in the prices of the birds. Seen a black shoulder pair their that looked so bad. The hens back end was a mess. I felt so bad for them. No way would give what they wanted. I would have had to quarantine for months just to feel comfy about the health of the bird. I will go to Clares swap in August. I seen better quality there.