Bumble or callus

[Aunt Angus]

I don't think this is correct. We had a duck last year with a fairly severe joint infection who was on antibiotics and antifungals for a few months. The vet was able to give us specific egg withdrawal times and said if we were really worried, there was a state lab we could send eggs to for testing. We don't sell eggs but have given them away without a thought.

We were told otherwise with Baytril. Maybe it's antibiotic specific? I just know that the CDFA told me this.

 

[PicklesMom]

We were told otherwise with Baytril. Maybe it's antibiotic specific? I just know that the CDFA told me this.

I think that is correct. When we had a duck with egg yolk peritonitis and they were laying out the options, they said "the antibiotics we would give her are so strong you could never eat her eggs again". The foot infection duck was on TMP-SMZ , itraconazole, and clavamox and we are able to eat her eggs now. The Itraconazole had the longest egg withdrawal, I think 8 weeks.

 

[Aunt Angus]

The black is simply dirt. It's not the same as a nucleated callus in bumblefoot. A nucleated callus is painful. As far as not eating the eggs, as a doctor, I have no problem eating eggs from a ducks that have had antibiotics. Trust me, you get much more objectionable pesticides in & on the vegetables you eat. Most vegetable transplants are now watered in or sprayed with systemic pesticides. Denying the duck lifesaving antibiotics and allowing it to get osteomyelitis is simply cruel. Bone infections are PAINFUL and you're not going to get many eggs from a duck in pain and stressed by infection. The welfare of the animal exceeds any need we might have for a morning egg IMHO

Ok. But as a certified egg producer, it's something you need to weigh when making these decisions. Baytril is on the no-no list for egg producers in CA, anyway. Plus, if it's not an infection, not sure why antibiotics should be started. Resistance is bad juju.

But, OP, it is your duck. You do what you think is best..

 

[Aunt Angus]

I think that is correct. When we had a duck with egg yolk peritonitis and they were laying out the options, they said "the antibiotics we would give her are so strong you could never eat her eggs again". The foot infection duck was on TMP-SMZ , itraconazole, and clavamox and we are able to eat her eggs now. The Itraconazole had the longest egg withdrawal, I think 8 weeks.

I may also be thinking that about organic eggs. I gave up my certification because of antibiotics. It may not apply otherwise.

 

[Charitylb1576]

She's not laying yet. She is only 18 weeks old.

 

[Charitylb1576]

So , I'm so confused now. Some of the posts said it's a say callus. Others said its not. When I touched it she didn't object. Also her sisters feet look a little different. We soaked her feet last night in Epson salt and warm water for about 15 minutes. That is all she would let us. Laid extra straw in their pen and bed. We tried to wrap it but she wasn't having it and struggled out of our arms.

 

[Aunt Angus]

So , I'm so confused now. Some of the posts said it's a say callus. Others said its not. When I touched it she didn't object. Also her sisters feet look a little different. We soaked her feet last night in Epson salt and warm water for about 15 minutes. That is all she would let us. Laid extra straw in their pen and bed. We tried to wrap it but she wasn't having it and struggled out of our arms.

I don't think its callus, but I'm not a doctor or a vet, just a person who's seen this before.

I'd just keep an eye on it then. Hopefully, it isn't infected and doesn't turn into bumblefoot. If it gets worse, then you will have to treat it. And it matters not if she is still a duckling and not laying. Let's hope she won't need antibiotics.

My ducks don't particularly like being handled for treatment, but you have to force them when it's necessary.

 

[Charitylb1576]

I don't think its callus, but I'm not a doctor or a vet, just a person who's seen this before.

I'd just keep an eye on it then. Hopefully, it isn't infected and doesn't turn into bumblefoot. If it gets worse, then you will have to treat it. And it matters not if she is still a duckling and not laying. Let's hope she won't need antibiotics.

My ducks don't particularly like being handled for treatment, but you have to force them when it's necessary.

Thank u. That is what I think I'm going to do is just wait and watch it. I also put some old blankets down where they like to nap during the day behind an old door. Both the ducks and chickens like to snuggle back there and it cam get muddy back there. It's hard to get straw back there so I threw some old blankets I usually use for winter. Mt husband works at Runnings (think Tractor supply for the upper Midwest) and he is going to have his farm Mgr take a look at the pictures today to see what he thinks too. He's been a great help when I need questions answered. These poor girls had a niacin deficiency when we 1st got them and that was a bear to fight. But we made it thru that, we can make it thru this! I love my Cheese and Pickles...here is pictures of them playing. They love their pool!

If the duck is not limping, it is a NORMAL area of the joint where the skin thickens. I have show Pekins and they all have areas at the joints that look similar to this. The KEY is that they do not limp. If they LIMP then you start soaking. If they are not, DO NOT cut into it because you'll give bacteria a way into a clean area. I'm a human foot surgeon, who also worked for vets for many years. I truly understand this issue because it is identicle to what we see in people!

Neither one are limping. They actually chase each other around the yard every day. They love to chase bubbles especially. When I let them out in the afternoon they come running and it's on concrete at 1st and I keep a close eye and haven't noticed any limping at all.

 

[Aunt Angus]

Thank u. That is what I think I'm going to do is just wait and watch it. I also put some old blankets down where they like to nap during the day behind an old door. Both the ducks and chickens like to snuggle back there and it cam get muddy back there. It's hard to get straw back there so I threw some old blankets I usually use for winter. Mt husband works at Runnings (think Tractor supply for the upper Midwest) and he is going to have his farm Mgr take a look at the pictures today to see what he thinks too. He's been a great help when I need questions answered. These poor girls had a niacin deficiency when we 1st got them and that was a bear to fight. But we made it thru that, we can make it thru this! I love my Cheese and Pickles...here is pictures of them playing. They love their pool!

Neither one are limping. They actually chase each other around the yard every day. They love to chase bubbles especially. When I let them out in the afternoon they come running and it's on concrete at 1st and I keep a close eye and haven't noticed any limping at all.

Lucky girls to have you! Pekin are prone to foot/leg problems because they are BIG. Your girls are lovely!!! And cute names! My ducks all have food-based names: Figgy (Runner), Clementine (Swedish), Marmalade (Welsh Harlequin), Peanut (Saxony), Julep (Pekin), and Cheddar (Call).

My Welsh Harlequin didn't limp, and she had one if the worst infections I'd ever seen. I felt so bad for missing it! I made a lot of changes to their environment, and it hasn't been a problem since. Now I slather their feet with lanolin every few days. That's made a big difference! Their feet are soft and smooth now - no cracking or roughness at all.

 

[Charitylb1576]

Lucky girls to have you! Pekin are prone to foot/leg problems because they are BIG. Your girls are lovely!!! And cute names! My ducks all have food-based names: Figgy (Runner), Clementine (Swedish), Marmalade (Welsh Harlequin), Peanut (Saxony), Julep (Pekin), and Cheddar (Call).

My Welsh Harlequin didn't limp, and she had one if the worst infections I'd ever seen. I felt so bad for missing it! I made a lot of changes to their environment, and it hasn't been a problem since. Now I slather their feet with lanolin every few days. That's made a big difference! Their feet are soft and smooth now - no cracking or roughness at all.

Thank u for the tip! I am always looking for tips! We had a pekin duck growing up named Beep, but he came to us with no feet as a rescue and my grandma made wood shoes for him and he lived a long healthy life thinking he was a dog! Lol
I appreciate all the advice I can get!