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[ShrekDawg]

No you could not see a bruise, unless it was swollen. And to be honest, i have watched my husband beat on a stubborn cow, and he takes excellent care if them. We are much weaker then a cow, so it would take more strength then a man has to truly injure them (remember they need to be able to withstand a bull)

I personally have bumped a couple with my pickup. The fool things were out in the alfalfa field and I was worried they would bloat (green alfalfa is too rich for a cow and it can kill them). They were stubborn and wanted to eat the alfalfa.
Usually at a sale you might see leg injuries, often happening during loading/off loading. Or extreem thinness, usually that is because the cow is old, though sometimes it is because the farmers is lousy.

Yeah, I thought about it after I said it and realized that one definitely wouldn't show unless it was severe probably and even then maybe not. I mean if you can see it there's probably a problem?

But yeah, I forgot how much bigger and stronger they are.

What you described sounds perfectly fine and everything and I think I worded it wrong. I have seen on TV or online or wherever where people do sometimes give them a few kicks or shoves or whatever to get them to load, etc. And I've never really had a problem with that or what you described, I just forgot people did that. When I said "hitting or kicking or whatever" I was thinking strictly in terms of people with abusive and/or harmful intentions, doing it hard and/or often to hurt them or whatever, going off what you said about the abuse allegations of this particular farm. A few shoves/kicks/slaps here or there to get them to move likely isn't really a big deal. I'm sure they do it to each other too. Was thinking just of people with harmful intentions so sorry if it came off that way or sorry if you actually did know what I meant and this is just awkward now ha

And the hay thing, you were saving them did they end up okay?

Now, hitting or kicking a dog with that same force as a cow, or at all, might definitely be seen as abusive, and I think we can agree on that? But you're right that cows are different and bigger and for them it's probably a light touch or encouragement

 

[ShrekDawg]

Oh and as for the injuries, are those common? Sounds sad but I guess that's life. Do they usually heal okay ir do they have to be culled I wonder? Sorry for all the questions ha

 

[Tumbling K]

Morning folks. how about some coffee?

 

[scottcaddy]

Morning BertS, coffee is a real good idea, Thanks!
BTW, you do remember what day it is don't you?
It's the last day of school here in this area

Scott (who will be on a bit later in the mornings now)

 

[scottcaddy]

Good Humpday Morning BertS!

 

[scottcaddy]

Just poked my nose outside, it's a bit brisk here, but dry. I hope that the rest of you have a good weather day.
Scott

 

[Tumbling K]

We had showers again yesterday. Hoping today we can start the real drying out process

 

[MissWiggles]

Good morning Bert and Scott. It's a bit brisk here too, but the sun is shining so I think it'll warm up pretty fast.

I brought the muffins: Lemon Blueberry with a Thyme glaze and Machata ( green tea) Almond with a Poppyseed crumble.

Work today...other than that, pretty quiet in my part of the world!

 

[OrganicFarmWife]

No you could not see a bruise, unless it was swollen. And to be honest, i have watched my husband beat on a stubborn cow, and he takes excellent care if them. We are much weaker then a cow, so it would take more strength then a man has to truly injure them (remember they need to be able to withstand a bull)

I personally have bumped a couple with my pickup. The fool things were out in the alfalfa field and I was worried they would bloat (green alfalfa is too rich for a cow and it can kill them). They were stubborn and wanted to eat the alfalfa.
Usually at a sale you might see leg injuries, often happening during loading/off loading. Or extreem thinness, usually that is because the cow is old, though sometimes it is because the farmers is lousy.

Yeah, I thought about it after I said it and realized that one definitely wouldn't show unless it was severe probably and even then maybe not. I mean if you can see it there's probably a problem?

But yeah, I forgot how much bigger and stronger they are.

What you described sounds perfectly fine and everything and I think I worded it wrong. I have seen on TV or online or wherever where people do sometimes give them a few kicks or shoves or whatever to get them to load, etc. And I've never really had a problem with that or what you described, I just forgot people did that. When I said "hitting or kicking or whatever" I was thinking strictly in terms of people with abusive and/or harmful intentions, doing it hard and/or often to hurt them or whatever, going off what you said about the abuse allegations of this particular farm. A few shoves/kicks/slaps here or there to get them to move likely isn't really a big deal. I'm sure they do it to each other too. Was thinking just of people with harmful intentions so sorry if it came off that way or sorry if you actually did know what I meant and this is just awkward now ha

And the hay thing, you were saving them did they end up okay?

Now, hitting or kicking a dog with that same force as a cow, or at all, might definitely be seen as abusive, and I think we can agree on that? But you're right that cows are different and bigger and for them it's probably a light touch or encouragement

I knew what you were saying, and yes you should not hit and kick at a dig like that. Generally if you see an abused cow, what you see is one that is too skinny. But that could just mean that the farmer kept them too long, and not that they had no food.
Generally if they are at the sale barn they are meant to be culled. Some are kept, but many are culled very(the exception being if the barn is selling cow calf or pregnant cows).

Oh and as for the injuries, are those common? Sounds sad but I guess that's life. Do they usually heal okay ir do they have to be culled I wonder? Sorry for all the questions ha

Yes out calves were ok. I really tore up DH field

but he did not hold it against me too badly. And a cow can recover from some injuries, it depends on how badly injured. It isn't rare, something you might see once or twice at a sale. The cows get excited and start trying to jump and kick and they hurt themselves.

 

[OrganicFarmWife]

Good morning everyone, I slept awful. DH wants to go to an estate sale today, it sounds fun, but I am soo tired.