BYC Café

[pennyJo1960]

I agree on both is what I mean sorry if you thought I was saying others
but am calling it night here

 

[Shadrach]

You've struck lucky. Coffee on the stove and raincoats hanging by the door.
All my plans for the day washed away. The places I need to go to do things are a complete mud bath!
It seems nobody can remember such a wet year.

 

[igorsMistress]

You did read about how fast the Fire moved? Management did not make that happen suddenly. Climate change did it.

We need to watch that part! A lot of dedicated and professional people work on Wild land management.

I do not want to get political but will say that There is a tendency to blame the victim which is terrible. "Someone" with little understanding wants to blame anything but climate change...even with a report that says it is the cause!

I don't think we know enough to say it's all climate change. California has mismanaged money for so long. Everyone wants to live in paradise but California isn't that without human intervention. The forest service did not manage the land well and hasn't been proactive in caring for the forests. So while climate contributes, humans have done much directly to screw things up there.

Also, with regard to mammoths and mastodons, I've read many theories, but we don't really know what happened. It's all theory and educated guesses. Like climate change.

 

[sourland]

Good morning Café. I've made a fresh pot of coffee and heated water. Everyone has opinions about things they may or may not really know about. Some of these opinions are best not shared at the Café. Here, have a fresh scone.

 

[getaclue]

Good morning Cafe.

 

[ronott1]

I agree on both is what I mean sorry if you thought I was saying others
but am calling it night here

Yes! Others and not You.

I hop you had a good nights sleep.

 

[ronott1]

I don't think we know enough to say it's all climate change. California has mismanaged money for so long. Everyone wants to live in paradise but California isn't that without human intervention. The forest service did not manage the land well and hasn't been proactive in caring for the forests. So while climate contributes, humans have done much directly to screw things up there.

Also, with regard to mammoths and mastodons, I've read many theories, but we don't really know what happened. It's all theory and educated guesses. Like climate change.

The fire in Paradise started in a National Forrest and is Federalyy maintained not by the State. Most of the fire was in Private land.

There is plenty of Science on Climate change.

 

[ShrekDawg]

I don't really know enough about California to comment one way or another or whether it was mismanaged or not but even if it WAS mismanaged (not saying it was, just hypothetically for the purposes of this post), what about the fires all around other areas of the world too, often simultaneously? The horrible, way more intense hurricanes? Weird, unseasonably warm and cold weather? MA has had some very mild winters and falls lately, this year it was practically summer all through October (maybe a few days or week here and there of colder weather) then fairly suddenly went straight to winter with like no fall. A couple years ago we had like literally no snow, except maybe like a couple storms, but they didn't really stick. We always have gotten a lot of snow and I was disappointed that year. Is all of this mismanagement or just a natural cycle? Surely at some point, some of it has to be manmade, or at least made way worse/sped up by man, even if it was a natural cycle (not saying it is or isn't), surely we all can at least agree that man isn't helping the earth? Even just not about climate we destroy rainforests, endangered species, oil spills from drilling, plastic in the oceans, etc., and the big wigs don't care bc. it's about money. Even the gulf stream is changing. All I will say on this

 

[ShrekDawg]

Also I am using the computer in the lobby because my phone is on the fritz again. Was fine for like 2 days but started acting up again last night and today. Very annoying after having it work again. Idk if it got slightly wet again or if it's from some apps (immediately deleted but still having issues so I guess not. Especially since I never had an issue with them before).

 

[CapricornFarm]

You've struck lucky. Coffee on the stove and raincoats hanging by the door.
All my plans for the day washed away. The places I need to go to do things are a complete mud bath!
It seems nobody can remember such a wet year.

Yes, we are over 20" above normal and expecting 2" today. At least it is not ice or snow, we are at 43°.
Good day, everyone!