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Can't really say anything meaningful for you DL and you IM about your dogs.
It seems, much as it is with chickens and I dare say many other animals, some stuff you just can't fix.
I hate it when I have to stand by helpless when the chickens suffer. It's been a long time since I had to deal with a terminally ill dog.
Because you both care about your animals they are lucky in that you won't let them suffer needlessly. It would be nice to think that one day that option will be open to humans.
 
Thank you to everyone offering condolences for Ben's condition. I was pretty much useless this morning and just sat around crying.
I forced myself up and took DH for a nice breakfast at Gigi's Place, picked up my bucket of egg shells from her, sold some eggs to a customer, went to a garage sale at a house around the corner selling for $425,000 with an indoor swimming pool (the house was literally built around the pool, the homeowner owns a local pool company) and now we are heading out to get some large chunky rocks to barricade the corners of the chicken pen. Olivia has been coming and going from the pen as she pleases for several days now. She's figured out how to do the limbo and duck under the bottom strand of the poultry netting (that is not charged) anywhere the gap is big enough. So before the others learn by her example and start ranging all over the place again, I need to nip this in the bud.
 
I'm sending out a general group hug this morning. :hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs
I was going to ask if I was stuck in the middle there somewhere which made me think of the song, Stuck in the middle with you by Steelers Wheel. So of course I googled it. I hope that wasn't the official video. Poor cop
 
It would be nice to think that one day that option will be open to humans.

I have commented on this very notion more than once. We offer our pets relief from the pains of terminal illness but deprive ourselves the same kindness. It makes no sense to me.
A friend of mine who is dying from stage 4 breast cancer who is currently hospitalized because she cannot eat has stated that she is ready. She's had enough. And she certainly has. After she survived her initial bout of cancer, she was just shy of her 5 year cancer free anniversary when vision symptoms led to the discovery of a tumor behind her eye. It was treated. Then a tumor was found in her spine.
She also had to have a knee replaced about 3 years after her initial chemo and radiation because that treatment caused her rheumatoid arthritis to flare up so bad it destroyed the knee. Then she had to have carpel tunnel surgery. Then the breast implants got infected and she had to have them removed.
They found a tumor deep inside her liver. That is what is causing her nausea. This woman has truly had enough pain to last a lifetime. She wants out and I don't blame her.
This picture was taken 12 years ago at the Reach The Beach race. She is the woman standing next to me with the long dark hair. Her father is on the far right and was the old person to run the race. Her son is standing directly behind me (with his eyes closed). Three generations of runners. It's very sad. Her father will outlive his daughter.
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I've had that discussion many times. I know of three people currently who have terminal illnesses who have ended up refusing the treatments offered by the hospitals.
One had a chemo therapy treatment, nothing much changed and she got told they would try another. She decided to refuse it and asked to be kept pain free as much as possible until she dies.
It's a very difficult topic to discuss. Many people are fundamentally against the idea due to various beliefs.
Then there are legal problems. It's not an easy set of laws to pass because the law itself has a belief system at it's core.
It will come I think but it's a long way away.
 
I had the whole pain of cancer in 84 some grace of God he let me live but if it came back ? not certain I could handle the gut wrenching now ? but have been clear all these years..
At least here there is a die with dignity law passed close to a dozen years ago Dr. Kevorkian was the name called him Dr. of death
 
Can't really say anything meaningful for you DL and you IM about your dogs.
It seems, much as it is with chickens and I dare say many other animals, some stuff you just can't fix.
I hate it when I have to stand by helpless when the chickens suffer. It's been a long time since I had to deal with a terminally ill dog.
Because you both care about your animals they are lucky in that you won't let them suffer needlessly. It would be nice to think that one day that option will be open to humans.

I completely agree with you Shad. I hope some day people will get it right, but I lack faith in humanity to do the right thing.
 
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Is it just me or does anyone else feel like people are particularly grumpy? I'm trying to push it off but man, it's wicked right now.

I think it's full moon. Know that I have had the urge for dancing.

Boys lost 11 to 6 but there was a bittersweet upside to the day. SIL's mother died on Thurs. and the family is gathering so our other two grand children were there. Speaking of terminal illnesses - we 'lost' her 6 months ago, but her body refused to give up until last week.
 

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