Calculating Protein Percentages of Eggs and Peas

[EggSighted4Life]

One question if I may, does your diet includes ANY tipe of grains whole grains or not (pasta, bred rice etc etc ) or potato?

Yes. unfortunately we were carb loaded kids with lots of pasta and little protein. Diabetes runs heavily on both sides of my family. And I do understand the impact made by the things I put in my body. It's true the only time my blood sugar has been controlled well was on a super low carb diet. However, I felt like crap all the time worse than when I have a high blood sugar... which the things I do to give it to myself were taught tools to block emotions... to get that endorphine rush that comes or whatever it is that makes sugar MORE addictive than cocaine and some how feel like everything is right with the world for JUST a moment. I am not normal and some chickens won't be either. THING is my brothers eat the same things and got NO issue. I didn't mean to make this about myself or diabetics... but a flock of birds all managed with the same practice may see some get fat while other stay thin or just right. I'm not making excuses for myself. I have come a LONG way and learned new tools for coping. I have also learned to be comfortable with who I am and knowing that while I don't meet our cultures' expectation of supermodel thin... I have some meat on my bones and when crud hits the fan... I won't be the first one wasting away. I have gotten even fatter before to the point of being uncomfortable, when I am going through binges. But when life normalizes and I calm down things always go back to "normal" for me. I am active and will put myself up against any pole bean for distance though not speed. When younger we ate all kinds of boxed foods that rarely enter my kitchen anymore... not due to nutrient but due to flavor. Our taste buds have matured. And many people don't realize things like milk have carbs in them... used to drink milk like water, now 1/2 cup a day at most... and not non fat or low fat anymore... just enough to swallow the pills I hate so much. Raising chickens has been a HUGE wake up call for animal product consumption. My real intent by mentioning it was just something that makes an easy connection for easier understanding of how certain things work.... WERE my body in working order... carbs would not be the enemy... even IF it is true that we don't technically need them. No real embarrassment or defensiveness going on here if it happens to come off that way. Just open conversation. Interestingly.. when I was younger I would eat 2 whole sandwiches. Now I eat an open faced sandwich with only 1 bread slice if really hungry usually... with chips (pretty sure they are from the devil) on the side.... consumption is often hormone driven I have realized... because now that life stay pretty status quo I still go through phases of craving can't stop thinking about eating something periods... thankfully short lived so that I have maintained my weight without ever dieting again for about the past 7 years. Sorry so long, detailed, and personal! I figure we all face some sort of challenge, so I don't care to much about being judged for my lessons from life.

So when I'm not mental (sorry if using the term offends anyone who struggles worse than me in that department)... my body will actual only take in a specified number of calories to maintain my weight...

BUT... if I pig out on carbs, I wake up starving and want more and it's repeating cycle. For ME, balance is key.

 

[Kiki]

Yes. unfortunately we were carb loaded kids with lots of pasta and little protein. Diabetes runs heavily on both sides of my family. And I do understand the impact made by the things I put in my body. It's true the only time my blood sugar has been controlled well was on a super low carb diet. However, I felt like crap all the time worse than when I have a high blood sugar... which the things I do to give it to myself were taught tools to block emotions... to get that endorphine rush that comes or whatever it is that makes sugar MORE addictive than cocaine and some how feel like everything is right with the world for JUST a moment. I am not normal and some chickens won't be either. THING is my brothers eat the same things and got NO issue. I didn't mean to make this about myself or diabetics... but a flock of birds all managed with the same practice may see some get fat while other stay thin or just right. I'm not making excuses for myself. I have come a LONG way and learned new tools for coping. I have also learned to be comfortable with who I am and knowing that while I don't meet our cultures' expectation of supermodel thin... I have some meat on my bones and when crud hits the fan... I won't be the first one wasting away. I have gotten even fatter before to the point of being uncomfortable, when I am going through binges. But when life normalizes and I calm down things always go back to "normal" for me. I am active and will put myself up against any pole bean for distance though not speed. When younger we ate all kinds of boxed foods that rarely enter my kitchen anymore... not due to nutrient but due to flavor. Our taste buds have matured. And many people don't realize things like milk have carbs in them... used to drink milk like water, now 1/2 cup a day at most... and not non fat or low fat anymore... just enough to swallow the pills I hate so much. Raising chickens has been a HUGE wake up call for animal product consumption. My real intent by mentioning it was just something that makes an easy connection for easier understanding of how certain things work.... WERE my body in working order... carbs would not be the enemy... even IF it is true that we don't technically need them. No real embarrassment or defensiveness going on here if it happens to come off that way. Just open conversation. Interestingly.. when I was younger I would eat 2 whole sandwiches. Now I eat an open faced sandwich with only 1 bread slice if really hungry usually... with chips (pretty sure they are from the devil) on the side.... consumption is often hormone driven I have realized... because now that life stay pretty status quo I still go through phases of craving can't stop thinking about eating something periods... thankfully short lived so that I have maintained my weight without ever dieting again for about the past 7 years. Sorry so long, detailed, and personal! I figure we all face some sort of challenge, so I don't care to much about being judged for my lessons from life.

So when I'm not mental (sorry if using the term offends anyone who struggles worse than me in that department)... my body will actual only take in a specified number of calories to maintain my weight...

BUT... if I pig out on carbs, I wake up starving and want more and it's repeating cycle. For ME, balance is key.

I really like you!

 

[Kiki]

This might be a stupid question, but how much does a cooked egg weigh? Also what is its volume? I ask because I think part of the debate is does an egg have more or less protein than a comparable quantity of food, right? Say, it you had a bird that you are looking to give an extra protein boost to, which would provide more protein, a tablespoon of egg? Or a tablespoon of dry feed? These may not be the right questions at all, but I was thinking that might help get my brain around this issue...

This is/was my question too.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

I really like you!

Thank you!

Sometimes I come off gruff or things come out wrong or insensitive. But heart is in the right place and I try to be aware of others and truly want the best for others.

 

[Akrnaf2]

Yes. unfortunately we were carb loaded kids with lots of pasta and little protein. Diabetes runs heavily on both sides of my family. And I do understand the impact made by the things I put in my body. It's true the only time my blood sugar has been controlled well was on a super low carb diet. However, I felt like crap all the time worse than when I have a high blood sugar... which the things I do to give it to myself were taught tools to block emotions... to get that endorphine rush that comes or whatever it is that makes sugar MORE addictive than cocaine and some how feel like everything is right with the world for JUST a moment. I am not normal and some chickens won't be either. THING is my brothers eat the same things and got NO issue. I didn't mean to make this about myself or diabetics... but a flock of birds all managed with the same practice may see some get fat while other stay thin or just right. I'm not making excuses for myself. I have come a LONG way and learned new tools for coping. I have also learned to be comfortable with who I am and knowing that while I don't meet our cultures' expectation of supermodel thin... I have some meat on my bones and when crud hits the fan... I won't be the first one wasting away. I have gotten even fatter before to the point of being uncomfortable, when I am going through binges. But when life normalizes and I calm down things always go back to "normal" for me. I am active and will put myself up against any pole bean for distance though not speed. When younger we ate all kinds of boxed foods that rarely enter my kitchen anymore... not due to nutrient but due to flavor. Our taste buds have matured. And many people don't realize things like milk have carbs in them... used to drink milk like water, now 1/2 cup a day at most... and not non fat or low fat anymore... just enough to swallow the pills I hate so much. Raising chickens has been a HUGE wake up call for animal product consumption. My real intent by mentioning it was just something that makes an easy connection for easier understanding of how certain things work.... WERE my body in working order... carbs would not be the enemy... even IF it is true that we don't technically need them. No real embarrassment or defensiveness going on here if it happens to come off that way. Just open conversation. Interestingly.. when I was younger I would eat 2 whole sandwiches. Now I eat an open faced sandwich with only 1 bread slice if really hungry usually... with chips (pretty sure they are from the devil) on the side.... consumption is often hormone driven I have realized... because now that life stay pretty status quo I still go through phases of craving can't stop thinking about eating something periods... thankfully short lived so that I have maintained my weight without ever dieting again for about the past 7 years. Sorry so long, detailed, and personal! I figure we all face some sort of challenge, so I don't care to much about being judged for my lessons from life.

So when I'm not mental (sorry if using the term offends anyone who struggles worse than me in that department)... my body will actual only take in a specified number of calories to maintain my weight...

BUT... if I pig out on carbs, I wake up starving and want more and it's repeating cycle. For ME, balance is key.

It is what it is.....but you can help yourself ........! No logics to take drug to reduce endogenic gloucus just to get it from food!

 

[CSAchook]

No I don't want to know about a comparable quantity of food.

I ONLY wanna know how much energy from an egg is provided by protein. 12% protein is much lower than 33%. By volume and weight it is 12%. By calories it is 33%. The water left in a raw or cooked egg since it won't all evaporate will not count towards energy at all it will be processed though as urates.

Though I DO get what you are saying and asking and YES that is a lot of what is causing confusion for some people. And that's exactly the kind of brain spinning question I appreciate! The kind that is trying to get to the real root of the matter.

So I will be recommending cooked egg as a good source to BOOST protein in most cases with the disclosure that it is also high in fat so should not be the MAIN source. I no longer believe after this awesome thread that when I say eggs a valuable source of protein I will be giving bad advice. No longer will I have to question others and derail threads when I see it suggested again since I now know where I stand in my head and my heart on the subject.

You all have been TRULY good sports! I love BYC and it's comradary.

Thank you for responding and sharing your perspective! (Again. Sorry I am slow at this ) This thread really has been so informative! It is great!

 

[EggSighted4Life]

It is what it is.....but you can help yourself ........! No logics to take drug to rescue endogenic gloucus just to get it from food!

Yep, I completely understand AND agree! I have come so far and with the support of BYC I think I heal/grow a little more each day. Thanks for the encouragement. (Creative how I couldn't see the rest of the post until I quoted it).

And I got chickens.... to help me stay active and more appropriately focused on the good things in life. We can only blame our up bringing, parents, past, or situation for so long before we must take responsibility for our own actions. It's just taken a little while to get here since it didn't happen over night and WAS all I knew.

Just like the peep feeding too many treats... if they don't do it maybe those predisposed will never see the kidney or fatty liver issues verses all the excess brings out and exacerbates it. Or maybe they will. But better to be safe than sorry and avoid the excess as soon as you learn the truth! Working still on changing more of my PERSPECTIVE so I don't feel like I would rather be dead than without. Learning to work within acceptable ranges and accept that like so many things it's a process that is multi faceted and I am working with a live subject.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Peas are a good protein source?! ....

Any idea how much sugar in peas?

I'm mostly kidding here, I have access to nutrition labels as much as they rest of y'all.

 

[Akrnaf2]

This thread is evolving! from the beginning of proteins % to a Philosophical approach on life.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

This thread is evolving! from the beginning of proteins % to a Philosophical approach on life.

It has been very educational for me...

I'm somewhat relieved that it has been just as difficult to get an agreement out of many smart people as it has been to get my mind to agree with itself on the % of protein in a single fresh egg (raw or cooked). To recognize that total % doesn't equal absorption or account for all the potential other nutrient benefits. And how weird to see that it is more digestible cooked with so many on a raw food craze.

And I guess I will say, we are what we eat.