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It is fine for them but the amount of protein is not the most important thing. The source of protein is important. They need access to Animal protein which is scarce this time of year.

For mixed flocks(boys and girls) make sure they get fish or salmon meal too. Costco has a cat feed that is small and has both Salmon and Fish meal in it.

Just layers, most feed has 2 to 3% calcium.

Some claim that too much protein will make the Hens lay less eggs. I do not know if that is supported by research studies though.

Thanks Ron...I actually pick up canned mackerel at the grocery outlet and give that to them a couple times a week along with scrambled eggs. They are BIG fans. The closest Costco is about an hour and a half away so that doesn't happen
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I will look into the protein/laying connection.
 
Use: Chick starter and grower crumbles have a minimum of 22% protein and are used to start out baby chicks. Use this formula for the whole 4 to 6-week grow out period. This feed can also be fed up to 18 weeks when your hens start laying eggs.
Ingredients: Organic soybean meal, organic corn, organic wheat, organic sun-dried alfalfa, limestone, organic flaxseed, Redmond conditioner (clay), organic kelp meal, monocalcium phosphate, diatomaceous earth, Redmond salt, DL Methionine, poultry vitamin & mineral premix, organic garlic granules, organic horseradish powder, organic star anise oil, organic juniper berry oil
Guaranteed analysis: Crude protein min 22%, crude fat min 3.8%, crude fiber max 4.9%, ash max 9.5%

mix with

* Organic Layer Pellets or Crumbles #5998

Use: Layer pellets are formulated to be a complete feed, but are also useful as part of a pasture-based diet. Layer pellets can be fed starting at 15-18 weeks of age.
Ingredients :Organic corn, organic soybean meal, organic wheat, limestone, organic sun-dried alfalfa, organic flaxseed, Redmond conditioner (clay), organic wheat millrun, organic kelp meal, monocalcium phosphate, diatomaceous earth, Redmond salt, DL Methionine, poultry vitamin & mineral premix, organic garlic granules, organic horseradish powder, organic star anise oil, organic juniper berry oil
Guaranteed analysis: Crude protein min 17%, crude fat 3.4%, crude fiber max 4.8%, ash max 17.8%



or

* Organic Corn & Soy-Free Layer Pellet #5615

Use: Layer pellets are formulated to be a complete feed, but are also useful as part of a pasture-based diet. Layer pellets can be fed starting at 15-18 weeks of age.
Ingredients: Organic wheat, organic peas, organic canola meal, organic milo, limestone, organic barley, organic sun-dried alfalfa, Redmond Conditioner (clay), organic kelp meal, diatomaceous earth, moncalcium phosphate, Redmond Sea Salt, DL methionine, poultry vitamin & mineral premix, organic garlic granules, organic horseradish powder, organic star anise oil, organic juniper berry oil
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein min 17%, crude fat min 3.1%, crude fiber max 6.8%, ash max 16.4%
*Organic Corn-Soy Free Chick Starter & Poultry Grower Crumbles #5618

Use: Chick starter and grower crumbles have a minimum of 22% protein and are used to start out baby chicks. You can use this mix for the whole grow out period. This feed can also be fed up to 18 weeks when your hens start laying eggs.
Ingredients: Organic canola meal, organic milo, organic peas, organic wheat, limestone, organic sun-dried Alfalfa, organic flaxseed, Redmond conditioner (clay), diatomaceous earth, organic kelp meal, Redmond Sea Salt, monocalcium phosphate, DL-methionine, poultry vitamin & mineral premix, dried aspergillus niger fermentation product, organic garlic granules, organic horseradish powder, organic star anise oil, organic juniper berry oil
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein min 22%, crude fat min 1.5%, crude fiber max 7.4%, ash max 8.4%


also

sunflower seeds are in the scratch or you can puchase separately check out the nutrition analysis on these babies.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3079/2
 
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I am also feeding my chickens an all purpose type of feed while they're not laying, can't remember the protein percentage though. Is the cat food you're referring to a Costco brand?
 
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I am also feeding my chickens an all purpose type of feed while they're not laying, can't remember the protein percentage though. Is the cat food you're referring to a Costco brand?

Yes, it is a Kirkland brand.
 
The guy frin Bar Ale got back in touch and this is his recommendation. I called Ag Unlimited and they are going to stock it for me.
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It is the GMO free 22% Turkey and Game Bird Crumble...I prefer a pellet but oh well. I am going to start fermenting so maybe the waste will even out with the decrease in consumption.

With Organic Flax
Crude Protein (Min)
Sodium (Min) 0.2 (Max)
List of Ingredients
With Organic Flax
22.0 % 1.3 % 4.0 % 11.0 % 8.0 % 1.2 % 0.6 % 0.4 %
Net Weight 40 Lbs
(18.2 Kgs)
WP20G
Crude Protein
Sodium
(Min)
(Min) 0.2 (Max)
22.0 % 1.3 % 4.0 % 11.0 % 8.0 % 1.2 % 0.6 % 0.4 %
Net Weight 40 Lbs
(18.2 Kgs)
WP20G
Lysine

(Min)
Crude Fat

(Min)
Crude Fiber

(Max)
Ash

(Max)
Calcium

(Min)

0.9

(Max)
Phosphorus

(Min)
Lysine

(Min)
Crude Fat

(Min)
Crude Fiber

(Max)
Ash

(Max)
Calcium

(Min)

0.9

(Max)
Phosphorus

(Min)
List of Ingredients


Sunflower Meal, Ground Wheat, Organic Canola Meal, Organic Ground Corn, Wheat Millrun, Organic Soybean Oil, Flaxseed Meal, Oyster Shell Flour, Monocalcium Phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Niacin, Selenium, Vitamin E Oil, Vitamin E Adsorbate, D-CA Pantothenate, Vitamin A 650, Basic Copper Chloride, Vitamin D3 500, Biotin, Riboflavin, Vitamin K MSBC, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Eddi, Vitamin B12, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, L-Lysine, DL-Methionine Dry, Lactobaccillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Lactobacillus Casei Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Mineral Oil, Diatomaceous earth, Natural sources of Yellow made of Saponfied Extracts of Marigold Flowers, phytase from Aspergillus niger.
 
The guy frin Bar Ale got back in touch and this is his recommendation. I called Ag Unlimited and they are going to stock it for me.
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It is the GMO free 22% Turkey and Game Bird Crumble...I prefer a pellet but oh well. I am going to start fermenting so maybe the waste will even out with the decrease in consumption.

With Organic Flax
Crude Protein (Min)
Sodium (Min) 0.2 (Max)
List of Ingredients
With Organic Flax
22.0 % 1.3 % 4.0 % 11.0 % 8.0 % 1.2 % 0.6 % 0.4 %
Net Weight 40 Lbs
(18.2 Kgs)
WP20G
Crude Protein
Sodium
(Min)
(Min) 0.2 (Max)
22.0 % 1.3 % 4.0 % 11.0 % 8.0 % 1.2 % 0.6 % 0.4 %
Net Weight 40 Lbs
(18.2 Kgs)
WP20G
Lysine

(Min)
Crude Fat

(Min)
Crude Fiber

(Max)
Ash

(Max)
Calcium

(Min)

0.9

(Max)
Phosphorus

(Min)
Lysine

(Min)
Crude Fat

(Min)
Crude Fiber

(Max)
Ash

(Max)
Calcium

(Min)

0.9

(Max)
Phosphorus

(Min)
List of Ingredients


Sunflower Meal, Ground Wheat, Organic Canola Meal, Organic Ground Corn, Wheat Millrun, Organic Soybean Oil, Flaxseed Meal, Oyster Shell Flour, Monocalcium Phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Niacin, Selenium, Vitamin E Oil, Vitamin E Adsorbate, D-CA Pantothenate, Vitamin A 650, Basic Copper Chloride, Vitamin D3 500, Biotin, Riboflavin, Vitamin K MSBC, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Eddi, Vitamin B12, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, L-Lysine, DL-Methionine Dry, Lactobaccillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Lactobacillus Casei Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Mineral Oil, Diatomaceous earth, Natural sources of Yellow made of Saponfied Extracts of Marigold Flowers, phytase from Aspergillus niger.
Let us know how they do with the new feed.

It is nice go get a local feed source too.
 
 
What would be wrong, if anything with feeding my flock a 22% protein  all natural game bird feed?   Thanks!...it's only got 0.9% added calcium but I already supplement with shells.  There is also a 24% game bird pellet that has 1.4% Calcium.  You can see them here http://www.baraleinc.com/poultry.html.  I have been feeding the multi use pellet but last time I went to the feed store they didn't have it in.  Sending my daughter today so want to tell her what to buy if the don't have it

It is fine for them but the amount of protein is not the most important thing. The source of protein is important. They need access to Animal protein which is scarce this time of year.

For mixed flocks(boys and girls) make sure they get fish or salmon meal too. Costco has a cat feed that is small and has both Salmon and Fish meal in it.

Just layers, most feed has 2 to 3% calcium.

Some claim that too much protein will make the Hens lay less eggs. I do not know if that is supported by research studies though.


I guess the argument would be that it could make the hens fat, and overweight hens are not productive.

I've never personally had that issue. I feed 20% most of the year, and increase it during molting season.
 
I guess the argument would be that it could make the hens fat, and overweight hens are not productive.

I've never personally had that issue. I feed 20% most of the year, and increase it during molting season.
Active chickens do better anyway.

Boredom leads to over eating and other problems. I think the higher protein is better for them and may be necessary for some heritage breeds.
 
I guess the argument would be that it could make the hens fat, and overweight hens are not productive.

I've never personally had that issue. I feed 20% most of the year, and increase it during molting season.
That is pretty much I would assume too...There is a whole lot of running around the back yard at my place. It is good to know that other people feed a higher protein ration too.

Active chickens do better anyway.

Boredom leads to over eating and other problems. I think the higher protein is better for them and may be necessary for some heritage breeds

Ozzie is so committed to his mission that the girls get a lot of exercise running from him lol
 
That is pretty much I would assume too...There is a whole lot of running around the back yard at my place. It is good to know that other people feed a higher protein ration too.


Ozzie is so committed to his mission that the girls get a lot of exercise running from him lol
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He needs a net!

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Maybe he should entertain them more!
 

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