California - Northern

[casportpony]

@chiqita
Do you not use Medicated chick start?

Some feed stores, like Farmers Feed in Gilroy, list their feed as medicated, but it's not always true, depends on what they ordered that week. Always check the label on the bag, you might be surprised.

-Kathy

 

[chiqita]

@chiqita
Do you not use Medicated chick start?

I do not.

There is a complicated answer but the short one is if you have chicks in a small place if they get cocci (and it is in the soil here and I forget to close doors so im not fly free in the house so they will) the load can get too big for the small dose of stuff in medicated to work. Plus you are blocking vitamins with it and I would rather not do that long term.

My favorite sweedish vet Iilse used to be able to get very detailed about this but she got sick last year and I have not seen her on fb for quite a while. I try to think good thoughts for her she is awesome .

 

[ronott1]

The preventative dose (.006%) for Corid Powder is 1/3 teaspoon per US gallon.
The preventative dose (.006%) for Corid liquid is 1/2 teaspoon per US gallon.

The moderate outbreak dose (.012%) for Corid Powder is 3/4 teaspoon per US gallon.
The moderate outbreak dose (.012%) for Corid liquid is 1 teaspoon per US gallon.

The severe outbreak dose (.024%) for Corid Powder is 1.5 teaspoons per US gallon.
The severe outbreak dose (.024%) for Corid liquid is 2 teaspoon per US gallon.

FDA recommendations:
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/animaldrugsatfda/details.cfm?dn=013-149
"Chickens
Indications: For the treatment of coccidiosis.
Amount: Administer at the 0.012 percent level in drinking water as soon as coccidiosis is diagnosed and continue for 3 to 5 days (in severe outbreaks, give amprolium at the 0.024 percent level); continue with 0.006 percent amprolium-medicated water for an additional 1 to 2 weeks."

And this link has these instructions:
http://www.drugs.com/vet/amprol-9-6-solution-can.html
"Poultry - as Soon As Caecal Coccidiosis Is Diagnosed, Give 0.024% Amprolium In The Drinking Water For 5 To 7 Days. Continue The Treatment With 0.006% Amprolium Medicated Water For An Additional One To Two Weeks. No Other Source Of Drinking Water Should Be Available To The Birds During This Time."

-Kathy

Thanks for posting!

Corid(20%powder) is such a safe medicine--you can dose them up to 7 times or so and not hurt them--that is better to just use 1.5tsp per gallon for any outbreak and then the 1/2 tsp for the follow up week to help them build immunity.

Like Bob Blosl said: KISS is the best way to do things.

 

[Luvinmyhurd]

The preventative dose (.006%) for Corid Powder is 1/3 teaspoon per US gallon.
The preventative dose (.006%) for Corid liquid is 1/2 teaspoon per US gallon.

The moderate outbreak dose (.012%) for Corid Powder is 3/4 teaspoon per US gallon.
The moderate outbreak dose (.012%) for Corid liquid is 1 teaspoon per US gallon.

The severe outbreak dose (.024%) for Corid Powder is 1.5 teaspoons per US gallon.
The severe outbreak dose (.024%) for Corid liquid is 2 teaspoon per US gallon.

FDA recommendations:
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/animaldrugsatfda/details.cfm?dn=013-149
"Chickens
Indications: For the treatment of coccidiosis.
Amount: Administer at the 0.012 percent level in drinking water as soon as coccidiosis is diagnosed and continue for 3 to 5 days (in severe outbreaks, give amprolium at the 0.024 percent level); continue with 0.006 percent amprolium-medicated water for an additional 1 to 2 weeks."

And this link has these instructions:
http://www.drugs.com/vet/amprol-9-6-solution-can.html
"Poultry - as Soon As Caecal Coccidiosis Is Diagnosed, Give 0.024% Amprolium In The Drinking Water For 5 To 7 Days. Continue The Treatment With 0.006% Amprolium Medicated Water For An Additional One To Two Weeks. No Other Source Of Drinking Water Should Be Available To The Birds During This Time."

-Kathy

Thanks for the info. Should I automatically treat new chicks? Is the medicated chick start a good idea? I usually do organic chick start.

Also does frontline plus treat lice and mites if I find any on them (I haven't but will look again)?

 

[Michael Apple]

I do not.

There is a complicated answer but the short one is if you have chicks in a small place if they get cocci (and it is in the soil here and I forget to close doors so im not fly free in the house so they will) the load can get too big for the small dose of stuff in medicated to work. Plus you are blocking vitamins with it and I would rather not do that long term.

My favorite sweedish vet Iilse used to be able to get very detailed about this but she got sick last year and I have not seen her on fb for quite a while. I try to think good thoughts for her she is awesome

.

Cocci oocysts sporulate and can also be airborne. Preventative treatments are a lesser dose and are generally given 5 days in a row, which isn't long term. I do it every three weeks for the first several months, supplementing vitamins and probiotics after each treatment. I've never had growth problems or losses due to the limitation of thiamine ( the vitamin protozoa thrive upon) from Amprolium.

 

[Luvinmyhurd]

Cocci oocysts sporulate and can also be airborne. Preventative treatments are a lesser dose and are generally given 5 days in a row, which isn't long term. I do it every three weeks for the first several months, supplementing vitamins and probiotics after each treatment. I've never had growth problems or losses due to the limitation of thiamine ( the vitamin protozoa thrive upon) from Amprolium.

What kind of probiotic do you use?

 

[Michael Apple]

What kind of probiotic do you use?

Probios dispersible powder: http://www.probios.com/powdersgranules1.html

The soluble inoculant for poultry is way overpriced. I use the 240 g canister that costs around $12 and lasts for a couple months. Well worth the money.

 

[CackleJoy]

So the code enforcement officer just called me back. She said the complaint was about Melvin. She was really nice about everything, and told me how to file an appeal. I told her my plan was to downsize and look into changing the code. She is okay with me keeping some of my chickens for now (I told her I would keep about 5, but I didn't explain chicken math to her.). She also told me the city planning department in Citrus Heights is already working to change the code to allow chickens, and gave me the name and phone number of the person in charge of re-writing it. I guess that is better than nothing.

Well that is a start the right direction!

 

[casportpony]

I don't use medicated feed and I don't treat with Corid unless I see signs of coccidiosis. If I do see any signs, I will treat at the .024% level for 5-7 days, and if I have one that's in a bad way, I will give it one or two drops of the Corid 9.6% solution orally in addition to the medicated water.

-Kathy

 

[CackleJoy]

What kind of probiotic do you use?

I use Conklin's Fastrack. We didn't lose a single bird to the heat last year. Probiotics help an animal adapt to stress better by keeping the gut from becoming an issue too.