Also have one really mean OEGB roo that I got from someone, I suspect he was raised by hand, too.
Many of you know that we had a sick cockerel. We are sure it was a mold issue and not contagious for several reasons.
First, this happened last time it got cold/wet and he never really got 100% after that. Always made odd noises and didn't crow right. No other symptoms. Eventually we took him out of isolation because he didn't act sick except for the weird noises. He ran with the other birds for about 6 weeks and none of them so much as sneezed.
That's reason number 2. Had the cockerels condition been contagious, I think we'd be dealing with more sick birds. Before he was found, he was badly sick for 2 or 3 days this time. Due to all of our out-of-state family, the children (often with cousins along) were doing chores. They do a good job but don't/can't equal an adult. When I found the cockerel, his comb and wattles were already blue from lack of O2, he'd been sick a good while.
Reason number 3 is that I was discussing Ron's post last night about black mold in straw. My son over heard the discussion and piped up (I have been very careful not to cast stones - it's a big burden for a boy) saying he had put some moldy straw in the hen house a couple weeks ago. The straw has since been replaced with fresh but the moldy straw could have generated the problem with the cockerel.
We obviously have a lot of learning and educating to do around here. We lost a friend due to combined ignorance and genetic weakness (none of the other birds got sick). I'm just glad it doesn't appear to be contagious.
My poor husband said he knew how it felt to shoot Old Yeller now.
Some things we've learned have been regarding what is necessary in a medicine cabinet for chickens. Mine is sadly lacking and we are remedying that straight-way. The other thing we've learned has been in regard to mold and educating our children. WE (adults) knew that the straw had got wet and was no good but it hadn't been disposed of so it got used while we were busy. We are having to rethink our methods and may go to sand in the winter, I don't know yet.
The stocked medicine cabinet is a big deal because so many really good products are only purchasable online.
Many of you know that we had a sick cockerel. We are sure it was a mold issue and not contagious for several reasons.
First, this happened last time it got cold/wet and he never really got 100% after that. Always made odd noises and didn't crow right. No other symptoms. Eventually we took him out of isolation because he didn't act sick except for the weird noises. He ran with the other birds for about 6 weeks and none of them so much as sneezed.
That's reason number 2. Had the cockerels condition been contagious, I think we'd be dealing with more sick birds. Before he was found, he was badly sick for 2 or 3 days this time. Due to all of our out-of-state family, the children (often with cousins along) were doing chores. They do a good job but don't/can't equal an adult. When I found the cockerel, his comb and wattles were already blue from lack of O2, he'd been sick a good while.
Reason number 3 is that I was discussing Ron's post last night about black mold in straw. My son over heard the discussion and piped up (I have been very careful not to cast stones - it's a big burden for a boy) saying he had put some moldy straw in the hen house a couple weeks ago. The straw has since been replaced with fresh but the moldy straw could have generated the problem with the cockerel.
We obviously have a lot of learning and educating to do around here. We lost a friend due to combined ignorance and genetic weakness (none of the other birds got sick). I'm just glad it doesn't appear to be contagious.
My poor husband said he knew how it felt to shoot Old Yeller now.
Some things we've learned have been regarding what is necessary in a medicine cabinet for chickens. Mine is sadly lacking and we are remedying that straight-way. The other thing we've learned has been in regard to mold and educating our children. WE (adults) knew that the straw had got wet and was no good but it hadn't been disposed of so it got used while we were busy. We are having to rethink our methods and may go to sand in the winter, I don't know yet.
The stocked medicine cabinet is a big deal because so many really good products are only purchasable online.
The chicks are now 3 1/2 weeks old. I'm thinking both of the Orphingtons are boys. I've never had Orphingtons before, so I have nothing to compare them to.
The Silkies have feathered out way more than the Orphingtons. The Frizzled ones look pretty weird though.
I think that is a very well written letter. It is clear and to the point.Here's my letter to both the Code Enforcement appeal board, and the Citrus Heights city council. (Sorry it's a little long) Can you think of anything I should add/change? I know the format is weird. It happened when I copied and pasted it on here. To whom it may concern,
My name is Elizabeth Smart. I am a wife, a mother, a Federal Employee, a Citrus Heights native, a homeowner, a gardener, and a chicken owner. I grew up in Citrus Heights and my parents bought their first home here in 1988. I moved back in 2010, when my husband and I bought our first home in the Chase neighborhood. We love it here, but in 2011 my husband lost his job, and since then has had a hard time finding full time employment. Self sufficiency has always been important to us, but especially now. Money is really tight, and gardening and chicken keeping really help stretch out our budget. I grow a huge garden every year. I grow enough to be able to share with my neighbors, and can the extra’s to use later in the year.
Shortly after we bought our house, we decided we would like to keep a few chickens, and have fresh eggs. This wasn’t something we took on lightly. We have a large back yard, but it is a little under the 10,000 square feet required to keep livestock under 75 pounds. We researched chicken keeping, and spoke with our neighbors, to see if they had any issue with our chicken keeping. None of them did, and we asked them to let us know if it became a problem for them. We love our chickens. I am able to feed them kitchen scraps and left over veggies from my garden to help keep down feed costs. When money is really tight I can bake bread for less than $.50 a loaf, and have scrambled eggs and toast for dinner, or during summer, omelets with veggies from the garden.
I received a Code Violation Notice on February 3[SUP]rd[/SUP], saying that I was in violation of the City animal code, and I could not keep chickens. I was given a week to correct the violation. I Spoke with Officer Buck, and let her know that I needed an extension, and that I would be filing an appeal to the city code.
Section 8-47 of the Citrus Heights city code currently reads:
ii. Small animal keeping. The minimum site area for the noncommercial, not-for-profit, keeping of small animals, of at least six months of age with a weight of less than 75 pounds at maturity, other than pets, as an incidental use, shall be 10,000 square feet; except that roosters shall be allowed only on a site of 20,000 square feet or larger, or within an RD-1 or RD-2 zoning district.
In the code chicken keeping is put in the same area as animals up to 75 pounds. The average chicken weighs about 6 pounds. I’m sure anyone can see there is a huge difference between keeping 10 small goats, or pigs, (about 750 pounds of animals) and keeping a coop with 10 chickens (about 60 pounds of animals). While my yard is a little short (only by a couple hundred square feet) my neighbors on both sides have yards large enough to keep livestock under 75 pounds.
The images below are of my property lines. The area outlined in red is the area I keep my chickens in. There is a fence in front (towards the street), a fence separating my neighbors property from my own, and a fence in back between my “chicken yard”, and the rest of the backyard. The coop is in the very middle. The space for my chickens is about 975 square feet. With the fencing no one can see them, and they stay contained in that area.
I would propose a change in the City Code, to enable people to keep chickens in smaller yards. 10,000 square feet is a huge area for 10 chickens. Even 5,000 would be plenty of space for them.
From Backyard Poultry magazine (Article By Byron Parker,Randall Burkey Company,Texas):
Because chickens spend most of their active time outside of the chicken coop, generally 2 – 3 square feet per chicken is sufficient space. Remember, you will need to provide space to roost at night and space for the nesting boxes. If you plan on keeping them cooped up full-time then 8 – 10 square feet per chicken would do, counting the outside run. In this case, more is always better. If you are planning on buying or building a mobile chicken coop, space requirement is minimized because it offers you the ability to frequently move the coop and chickens onto fresh ground.
The City of Roseville allows up to 10 chickens, ducks, or pigeons, regardless of lot size.
Section 7.36.010 Domestic fowl--Restrictions. Except upon premises zoned for agricultural purposes pursuant to the zoning ordinance, no person shall keep any goose or turkey, or more than ten, whether singly or in combination, of the following: ducks, chickens, or pigeons. (Ord. 1293 § 1 (part), 1975: prior code § 3.90.)
The city of Davis allows up to 6 Chickens regardless of lot size.
5.01.020 Keeping of chickens, pigeons or rabbits. http://
It is unlawful for any person to keep or maintain within the city, or permit to be kept or maintained upon land belonging to such person, any chickens, pigeons or rabbits except as follows:A total of not more than six chicken hens or six pigeons or a combination of chicken hens and pigeons not to exceed the number of six, or a total of not more than six rabbits may be kept and maintained in a clean and sanitary pen or structure, no part of which shall be located less than forty feet from any residence, other than a residence owned and occupied by the person owning or in possession of such animals; and, provided further, that the keeping of such animals shall not create a health or nuisance problem. (Code § 8-2.102)
As a city that was founded on self sufficiency, you would think that we would encourage this in our community. I know of many people currently keeping chickens “illegally”, who would love to see this code changed. You don’t have many people coming forward, because of the fear that if they speak up they will be forced to get rid of their flocks. You may not see the importance of changing the code, but many of your constituents feel it is very important. I am asking you to change the City Code, and allow people like me to own chickens without the fear of violating the law. Encourage and give people the tools to be able to take care of themselves and their families as they see fit.
Thank you for your consideration,
Elizabeth Smart
