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[Audio51]

Quote: Would Vitamin B deficiencies be from the parent stock?

 

[ronott1]

Would Vitamin B deficiencies be from the parent stock?

Flock health is very important. More than B deficiency LOL.

 

[Audio51]

Quote: Unfortunately, with shipped eggs there is nothing I could so about that.

 

[lawatt]

Lovin the babies! I'm told that after 7 generations from an addition, the breed will be considered pure. You might be onto a way of improving the mottling for the Isbars. Although, working with SFH could be like a serious grab bag of colors that pop up willy nilly. Would love to see pictures as these develop!

We have SFH but not Isbars. I aim to remedy that some day.

i do not plan on using these crossed chicks for breeding, i'm just curious as to what they will look like, while waiting for my female isbars to get to the point of lay. Isbars aren't supposed to be mottled, so no need to introduce that variable into their line!

and there's been quite an interesting discussion of SFH genetics over on that thread, and while they do have wild patterns, they are pretty easy to identify as being black, blue, or splash based -- my pullet (who came from Deann last year) is a beautiful blue-based girl -- the blue is in the "background" of her feathers, particularly on her head and tail:


and she's crossed with my handsome blue isbar:


and the result, so far, is two black chicks and one splash!

 

[chickee]

Quote: I didn't realize the water wells were different than mine, so now it makes sense that you had to fill more than the center one to get your humidity up to 40%!

 

[ronott1]

Flock health and packing eggs correctly for shipped eggs is very important.

I have hatched UoA Blues three times from shipped eggs. The first (theoretically) batch was from ebay eggs. The Auction ended in Sept. so of course the eggs came in March. In the meantime, I hatched a batch for myself and Jason from a fellow BYCr. Both of those hatches were great!

The Ebay hatch was terrible. The eggs were packed in tissue paper so many of them broke. The seller had trouble getting his hens to lay so he had been treating them with antibiotics even though they did not have symptoms other than not laying eggs. I was supposed to get a dozen of UofA blues but got 10 UofA Blues eggs and 4 Bantam BLRW eggs. Only two eggs hatched. The BLRW Bantam was missing an eye! The UofA Blue was very fragile too.

Both parent flocks were hatched from eggs from Arkansas and both Flocks were in Arkansas. One breeder had a healthy flock and one did not. It makes a huge difference!

 

[liz9910]

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I guess I should have told you haha. Trial and error.

 

[CackleJoy]

i do not plan on using these crossed chicks for breeding, i'm just curious as to what they will look like, while waiting for my female isbars to get to the point of lay. Isbars aren't supposed to be mottled, so no need to introduce that variable into their line!

and there's been quite an interesting discussion of SFH genetics over on that thread, and while they do have wild patterns, they are pretty easy to identify as being black, blue, or splash based -- my pullet (who came from Deann last year) is a beautiful blue-based girl -- the blue is in the "background" of her feathers, particularly on her head and tail:


and she's crossed with my handsome blue isbar:


and the result, so far, is two black chicks and one splash!

Beautiful birds! I see I used the wrong term. I've seen some splash (different than mottling but I don't really know HOW - my genetic ignorance here) Isbars and some are really splashy while some are just speckled. I like the dramatic ones

 

[chickee]

Would Vitamin B deficiencies be from the parent stock?

Yes it would. I had a chick hatch as a star gazer, which is a thiamine deficiency. When reading up on it, I found that it comes directly from the parent bird being deficient in Thiamine.

Might let the person you got eggs from know so they can be sure their birds are getting B12 rich foods. One good source is oats. My birds get a couple of handfuls of oats every morning.

 

[ronott1]

Unfortunately, with shipped eggs there is nothing I could so about that.

Yes! Health flock and packing of shipped eggs are beyond our control. We can only incubate them and then try to help them recover when they hatch.

It can be a lot of work sometimes too.