California - Northern

[chiqita]

So any comments on if this is healthy or early stage of Angel wing?

I'm sorry if there's any doubles! I took a look of pics and it was hard to keep track

Righ now they all look parallel to the body. Just watch. I can't see wings in pic one if that is the worrying one however.

Thank you, I will. I will probably need you guys to translate the results for me lol, I don't understand their professional, doctor-y talk. 

I do a lot of googleing when I get a report. I ha e a friend who calls and goes over it that works too.

You shouldn't have any trouble selling the chicks you hatch. Her birds are really nice. I love my Silkies. I have two blue partridge rooster chicks that I really need to re-home but they are the sweetest guys! So are my two porcelain roosters. I am really hooked on them! 

The new chicken house is 10x20 and will have 4 rooms. 1 room for feed and chicks, 2 rooms for two separate groups of my W/BW Ameraucanas and the 3rd room for my Golden Cuckoo Marans. 

silkie boys do well in an all boy pen mostly. I had one who was a big hair puller that got rehomed. But its an option if you get attached.

Next part is for below comment!

The great and terrible part of silkies is sexing. You will be able to tell people no clue with confidence however.

Good to know they will sellable.  I had that in the back of my head when I bid on them.  THere have been lots of people on the FB poutry page asking  for silkies.  Hopefully there will still be a market when these are ready.

I am so jealous of your new building!  My storage was just outside the entrance to the pen...untill we fenced in a bigger area so they would not be eating the entire year.  Now the storage is inside the new pen and they sit on everything and poop in it.  :/ .  I need to move everything outside the new fence lines.

 

[caychris]

@CackleJoy You mentioned breeders letting in faults so I just wanted to let you know about the boys I got from your eggs. I'm having a hard time getting good pics of the CLB boys from your eggs. But here are the recent ones I have Butterscotch continues to have a few frizzle for lack of a better word feathers on his back and wing tops. They all have floppy combs. Im not planning on breeding these guys but in general the trait I'm after is large blue eggs from the hens so I'm not sure what traits in the Cockerel I should be looking for. I think something close to the proposed standard would be good but I've been hearing complaints about hatch rates with CLB's and mine was rather poor. (Not sure about the eggs or the incubation so not placing blame just stating facts)

Verin the first to crow


Butterscotch maybe hard to tell from this pic but Ill try to get better pics soon.

Reggie

 

[CackleJoy]

Yup, the Legbars are a mess Lots of work to do on them as a breed. They were imported by GFF and they didn't breed for standard, they bred for propagation so they could sell more birds. To be fair to GFF, when one imports chickens, one gets a very narrow gene pool and sometimes one must keep breeding for preservation while the SOP gets less priority.

Deann @juststruttin and Walt @fowlman01 can both chime in here (I'm new to the breed as well - you got some of the first eggs) but the breed does have issues and needs a lot of work to get back to SOP. I'm going to work on them for a couple years and see what happens.

I had hoped to improve what I have because the cockerel is from GFF's most recent imports. I've heard horror stories though so I won't know until next year (after breeding the next generation) what we are dealing with. You might be glad you aren't breeding for SOP!

 

[ronott1]

Yup, the Legbars are a mess Lots of work to do on them as a breed. They were imported by GFF and they didn't breed for standard, they bred for propagation so they could sell more birds. To be fair to GFF, when one imports chickens, one gets a very narrow gene pool and sometimes one must keep breeding for preservation while the SOP gets less priority.

Deann @juststruttin and Walt (@Wolfman ?) can both chime in here (I'm new to the breed as well - you got some of the first eggs) but the breed does have issues and needs a lot of work to get back to SOP. I'm going to work on them for a couple years and see what happens.

I had hoped to improve what I have because the cockerel is from GFF's most recent imports. I've heard horror stories though so I won't know until next year (after breeding the next generation) what we are dealing with. You might be glad you aren't breeding for SOP!@

@fowlman01

 

[CackleJoy]

BYC is having issues. I had wanted to post comments with each bird but the photos are not coming up with quotes.

First, there is a keel issue that I learned about from Deann.

This is where the keel is not nice and straight, it can curve both sideways and up/down. One should turn the chickens over and feel for this fault. I think it would be best to have an expert to show you what to look for. I can't quite figure it out on my own. I don't know if bumps are bad or normal. I do know a sideways curve is bad and would cull (from the breeding flock) any bird that had this problem.

Second, the comb is an issue more in the states than in the UK. The UK standards recognizes that the crest will cause a wonky comb whereas the US likes a more upright comb. It's a significant difference and almost not fair to the US CLB keepers to have to breed out a trait that the UK allows in their exhibition birds. Here is a link to the latest SOP draft for US CLB.

https://sites.google.com/site/thecr...p-revision-1-replaced-late-2013-by-revision-2

Third, color - I wouldn't choose Butterscotch because he is too colorful already.

Finally - if you are using the birds for your own cross, don't worry about SOP. Base your choice solely on personality. Always breed friendliness into your birds. If you are selling them for back yard egg layers, the friendly factor is far more important than the comb type.

 

[CackleJoy]

@fowlman01

Thank you Ron, I edited the post to fix it

 

[tommysgirl]

I took some pictures of two Spanish breeds today. The Pita Pinta cockerels are much younger than the Partridge Penedesencas.

Someone in lake county wanted a new boy?

hahaha uhmmm NO! As part of my observance of the "Year of the Cockerel" I have hatched 25ish of the little guys. Just processed 3 NH/Del boys and they will be joined in the freezer by 7 more crosses and a couple marans in about 4 weeks. Next in line will be the Konza boy I am not keeping and 4 NH/Amelia boys and then whatever sex link males hatch from this.


That's my Amelia on the right. Her name is Willa and she is currently sitting on two EE eggs since this is her first trip on the mother ship. Gracie Belle and Julie on the left. Sharing a nest with a variety of sex link eggs...NH over Dorking, Del and California Grey.

My rooster inventory is as follows

Ike the NH
Cosmo...Easter hatch boy Silkie over D'Uccle
Magnus...Konza boy
Snowball the Silkie (I did not name him that. He is Cosmo's dad)
and maybe one of the Marans but that will definitely be pushing it.

So, as delighted as I am with Daphne...at this point in time, adding a PP rooster is not in the plan but thanks for thinking of me

@Audio51 That showgirl is enough to make me think about it. I do believe that chiqita is right, "Sexy Beast" is the perfect name.

 

[caychris]

BYC is having issues. I had wanted to post comments with each bird but the photos are not coming up with quotes.

First, there is a keel issue that I learned about from Deann.

This is where the keel is not nice and straight, it can curve both sideways and up/down. One should turn the chickens over and feel for this fault. I think it would be best to have an expert to show you what to look for. I can't quite figure it out on my own. I don't know if bumps are bad or normal. I do know a sideways curve is bad and would cull (from the breeding flock) any bird that had this problem.

Second, the comb is an issue more in the states than in the UK. The UK standards recognizes that the crest will cause a wonky comb whereas the US likes a more upright comb. It's a significant difference and almost not fair to the US CLB keepers to have to breed out a trait that the UK allows in their exhibition birds. Here is a link to the latest SOP draft for US CLB.

https://sites.google.com/site/thecr...p-revision-1-replaced-late-2013-by-revision-2

Third, color - I wouldn't choose Butterscotch because he is too colorful already.

Finally - if you are using the birds for your own cross, don't worry about SOP. Base your choice solely on personality. Always breed friendliness into your birds. If you are selling them for back yard egg layers, the friendly factor is far more important than the comb type.

Thanks

Reggie is my friendliest bird though none of them are aggressive. I might be interested in breeding him but with just the one pullet at the moment Id need some more stock. I may work a deal with Neal (zooman) to put a breeding pen out at his place.

I also want to cross with some UofA blues but I cant remember which cross is the one I want. Ill look it up.

 

[chiqita]

BYC is having issues. I had wanted to post comments with each bird but the photos are not coming up with quotes. First, there is a keel issue that I learned about from Deann. This is where the keel is not nice and straight, it can curve both sideways and up/down. One should turn the chickens over and feel for this fault. I think it would be best to have an expert to show you what to look for. I can't quite figure it out on my own. I don't know if bumps are bad or normal. I do know a sideways curve is bad and would cull (from the breeding flock) any bird that had this problem. Second, the comb is an issue more in the states than in the UK. The UK standards recognizes that the crest will cause a wonky comb whereas the US likes a more upright comb. It's a significant difference and almost not fair to the US CLB keepers to have to breed out a trait that the UK allows in their exhibition birds. Here is a link to the latest SOP draft for US CLB. https://sites.google.com/site/thecr...p-revision-1-replaced-late-2013-by-revision-2 Third, color - I wouldn't choose Butterscotch because he is too colorful already. Finally - if you are using the birds for your own cross, don't worry about SOP. Base your choice solely on personality. Always breed friendliness into your birds. If you are selling them for back yard egg layers, the friendly factor is far more important than the comb type.

Orlando agrees with the last statement! Keels are easy to learn to feel and often ignored in breeding. Its a marans issue too. I feel all of them now for practice.

hahaha uhmmm NO! As part of my observance of the "Year of the Cockerel" I have hatched 25ish of the little guys. Just processed 3 NH/Del boys and they will be joined in the freezer by 7 more crosses and a couple marans in about 4 weeks. Next in line will be the Konza boy I am not keeping and 4 NH/Amelia boys and then whatever sex link males hatch from this. That's my Amelia on the right. Her name is Willa and she is currently sitting on two EE eggs since this is her first trip on the mother ship. Gracie Belle and Julie on the left. Sharing a nest with a variety of sex link eggs...NH over Dorking, Del and California Grey. My rooster inventory is as follows Ike the NH Cosmo...Easter hatch boy Silkie over D'Uccle Magnus...Konza boy Snowball the Silkie (I did not name him that. He is Cosmo's dad) and maybe one of the Marans but that will definitely be pushing it. So, as delighted as I am with Daphne...at this point in time, adding a PP rooster is not in the plan but thanks for thinking of me @Audio51 That showgirl is enough to make me think about it. I do believe that chiqita is right, "Sexy Beast" is the perfect name.

I think people have been suggesting cher too! Also fits!

 

[tommysgirl]

I think people have been suggesting cher too! Also fits!

haha Cher is perhaps the original Sexy Beast so that fits too!