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[zooweemama]

Ack! I had bumblefoot on a quail.. That was a tough treat, they usually tell you to put them down, but it was bubbah. her foot stayed different then the other one, but she seems fine and its been 10 months now. but soaking a quail in salt water and wrapping her foot, yah she was not a fan never forgave me. She still growls at me when i clean her cage.

Those silkie roos should not be Roo like IMO for months. The ones I hatched in April after Easter... started mating 3 weeks ago. They are just slow pokes. I have a hen from March that still is not laying. If there is a dominant roo in the bunch they may never act like roos. just watch the little showgirl roo doesn't get aggressive.


My cream legbar girls have started laying again. But the eggs are HUGE. I thought they were ee egg because they were so big, but they were the wrong color. I saw one of the girls on the frigging egg today, and the other one getting out of the nest from the other egg, so I think its safe to say it is them and not mutant ee eggs. I am hopeful these eggs will be fertile since they are so much bigger and everyone is older.

Also, I have a question for you all. I was on the hatching egg/paypal chat thread and 2 girls who went to a lecture in Arkansas said the guy speaking said that is is always the last rooster that has mated with a hen that fertilizes the egg. As long as she is being mated by the desired roo, a "oops" wont matter. He apparently has some credentials. I'm trying to find a copy of the lecture, but has anyone else heard this? It would make breeding pens much easier!

Thanks for all the info! I hope that the bumblefoot will be ok. I don't have hundreds of birds so I think that does influence my decision. This duck has name, Pearl - and she is a sweet fluffy Pekin. I find it easier to put down a chicken than a duck for some reason. I will probably cry when it comes to that day. Although I am soft for a couple of our chickens so I think it wouldnt be all that fun putting them down either.

I had not heard that about the mating. I did read that they can carry several roosters sperm in them at once so it is possible to have various breeds in a clutch. Cannot recall when that was. Hope someone knows because that would sure be nice. LOL

 

[chiqita]

Thanks for all the info! I hope that the bumblefoot will be ok. I don't have hundreds of birds so I think that does influence my decision. This duck has name, Pearl - and she is a sweet fluffy Pekin. I find it easier to put down a chicken than a duck for some reason. I will probably cry when it comes to that day. Although I am soft for a couple of our chickens so I think it wouldnt be all that fun putting them down either.

I had not heard that about the mating. I did read that they can carry several roosters sperm in them at once so it is possible to have various breeds in a clutch. Cannot recall when that was. Hope someone knows because that would sure be nice. LOL

I'd imagine it will be much easier on a duck. I know I first read about it when we had ducks and people fixed it all the time. Plus when does a duck not want to soak her feet??

And yes, once they have names its a differnt ballgame. This is one reason only a few quail get names! every once in a while Mario will start calling one wiht a big personality something and i'm like NOOOOO!
OK, now to make asian pear slaw for dinner!

 

[ChickNmamma]

Also, I have a question for you all. I was on the hatching egg/paypal chat thread and 2 girls who went to a lecture in Arkansas said the guy speaking said that is is always the last rooster that has mated with a hen that fertilizes the egg. As long as she is being mated by the desired roo, a "oops" wont matter. He apparently has some credentials. I'm trying to find a copy of the lecture, but has anyone else heard this? It would make breeding pens much easier!

I was reading on the same thread.. and thought that was very interesting. The speaker was at a Backyard Poultry meet up with Dr. Bramwell.. BYCers dray and Caj1985 were there. dray also said that HallFamily (Jim) will probably be posting a video of the seminar on the Arkansas thread when he gets it finished.

According to Caj1985 "Basically the way he stated it works is the semen is stored in tubes and the last one to mate is the sperm that gets used. As long as the new rooster continues to mate the hen the old will never get added from the tubes to the egg. The stuff on the bottom gets packed in and finally absorbed by the hen. It was really interesting to listen to him. Therefore as long as your rooster continues to do his job , the sperm from the old one will just get packed to the bottom and never get added to the egg."

Very informative! I went over to the Arkansas thread and as of three days ago HallFamily is working on putting it up to be available for people to view online. It is currently in two parts and he is working on the title page/credits. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/37675/arkansas-folks-speak-up/6040#post_10270746

 

[zooweemama]

I was reading on the same thread.. and thought that was very interesting. The speaker was at a Backyard Poultry meet up with Dr. Bramwell.. BYCers dray and Caj1985 were there. dray also said that HallFamily (Jim) will probably be posting a video of the seminar on the Arkansas thread when he gets it finished.

According to Caj1985 "Basically the way he stated it works is the semen is stored in tubes and the last one to mate is the sperm that gets used. As long as the new rooster continues to mate the hen the old will never get added from the tubes to the egg. The stuff on the bottom gets packed in and finally absorbed by the hen. It was really interesting to listen to him. Therefore as long as your rooster continues to do his job , the sperm from the old one will just get packed to the bottom and never get added to the egg."

Very informative! I went over to the Arkansas thread and as of three days ago HallFamily is working on putting it up to be available for people to view online. It is currently in two parts and he is working on the title page/credits. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/37675/arkansas-folks-speak-up/6040#post_10270746

Awesome info!

 

[ronott1]

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I hatched SG Dorking eggs that had two roos as daddies. The Ameracauna was removed from the pen two weeks before she started collecting the eggs. I got two EEs and one SG Dorking from that hatch. I have looked it up and no, the eggs do not work that way. There is an organ in the ova duct that collects the sperm. As the egg is leutinized, it passes by the organ and is fertilized. If there is more than one roo, the sperm mixes up in that organ and stays active for three weeks or so. What happens is one egg is layed and then a new egg pops into the channel. There are from 3 to 5 in various stages in each cycle, then the hen takes a break and the cycle starts again.

Either they did not understand or were given wrong information.

 

[ronott1]

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Like I posted above, nice theory but not true. Unless my experience is a statistical anomaly....

 

[ChickNmamma]

Well I think I would trust your experiences.. that's how I remembered hearing things worked too - not like an assembly line where the new stuff pushes the old stuff to the back - more like a mixup. It will be interesting to see the video and see exactly what he said. Especially since my experience had been that I took a White Cochin roo out of my banty pen three weeks before the Phoenix hen that was with him decided to go broody - and all of the chicks have feathered feet - and the mother and the current roos do NOT have feathered feet...

 

[ronott1]

Well I think I would trust your experiences.. that's how I remembered hearing things worked too - not like an assembly line where the new stuff pushes the old stuff to the back - more like a mixup. It will be interesting to see the video and see exactly what he said. Especially since my experience had been that I took a White Cochin roo out of my banty pen three weeks before the Phoenix hen that was with him decided to go broody - and all of the chicks have feathered feet - and the mother and the current roos do NOT have feathered feet...

Yes! That is very common. The anatomy pictures of a hens reproductive system shows a pouch like organ that collects the sperm. Also, can you conceive of tubes that are only one sperm in diameter? Have you seen sperm move under a microscope(ok I have only seen it in videos)? It is not going to sit there like some inert liquid--It is going to mix. Also, nature picks the strongest sperm.

Be careful if you go to certain threads though. Some Idolize Dr. Bramwell. I think he is a BYC Member too.

I am just going to say that you might want to read what is in that talk very carefully.

 

[zooweemama]

http://redding.craigslist.org/grd/3553601720.html

I know it's a still air incubator but this is $75 and comes with a turner anddd a fan...deal or no deal?

 

[chiqita]

Yes! That is very common. The anatomy pictures of a hens reproductive system shows a pouch like organ that collects the sperm. Also, can you conceive of tubes that are only one sperm in diameter? Have you seen sperm move under a microscope(ok I have only seen it in videos)? It is not going to sit there like some inert liquid--It is going to mix. Also, nature picks the strongest sperm.

Be careful if you go to certain threads though. Some Idolize Dr. Bramwell. I think he is a BYC Member too.

I am just going to say that you might want to read what is in that talk very carefully.

You crushed my dreams ron.

And zoo it says page not found. But if it is a little giant don't get it!