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Ali707 said:
It is just so hard for me to kill something with those trusting little eyes. Of course I am certain it would be a little easier if it was a jerk rooster! :)

Funny when I searched poultry processors Northern California that didn't even come up. I am getting closer and closer to being able to eat my own chickens because the ones that I buy at the store (even the outrageously expensive organic kind) just aren't right. They don't taste good and they have a weird texture.

Thank you for answering, I really appreciate it!
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You can ask on Cl if anyone processes in your area. It is complicated to be able to do it legally in the bay area( well cal in general too), but some people just do it on the side. It runs about 5 per bird however, so it is sometimes cost prohibitive.
SilkiesForEver said:
Genetic question.
I put one of my Mille fleur D'uccle cockerels in with a white D'uccle hen. What do you think I will get? I'm a newbie when it comes to genetics.
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White is also a tricky gene. from my understanding there are 2 types of white, dominant white, that IS a color, and recessive ( I think its called, even though it is NOT recessive) white. One is an actual color, one is a LACK of a double color gene.

My white showgirl roo for example carries blue as his second gene(POSSIBLY PARTRIDGE TOO BUT I'M NOT 100% CERT IAN ON THAT ONE oops caps!) ) . I only know this by breeding him and watching the offspring. I think that is called recessive white. He passes on either a lack of color or a blue gene. If the offspring get the lack of color gene they re white, if they get the blue gene, they appear somewhere on the BBS color range. If he was dominant white, he would pass on a white gene that was a color ( not a lack of color) and he would have to get another one from the other parent to express it. When you have white Marans or White cream legbars show up for example I THINK this is what you are getting ( 2 parents that sometimes produce white chicks, but not very commonly and wont produce it at all with a different parent)

I vaguely remember something about the MF pattern being tricky to keep, so I'm guessing it is NOT dominant and you will not get the patterning on the chicks, but the base coloring will be along normal lines. That is going off a total guess however, and I could be wrong.

( I found this awesome link while trying to see if MF is dominant or not http://books.google.com/books?id=m2... mille fleur pattern a dominant color&f=false)

AS for out breeding, it really can have a big difference on hatching chicks. My oe f1 chicks hatch at almost 100% even shipped, while my pure marans are more tricky. The F2 marans chicks with Marans mothers (same egg) but a f1 oe dad ( so some of the same genes, but the ee outcross) still have a better hatch rate . I do think the ee blood made the eggs more likely to hatch even at 1/4. Of course they are still not MArans. I wonder however If I took the hens that had dark eggs but missed the blue gene, and have marans characteristics and bread them back to marans hens, so they were 1/16 ee and were able to be called marans again, if they would still hatch better. ( I have also been wondering if people would freak over silkies that lay blue eggs!)

In fact, I wonder if you could work on a line of Marans that had eggs that were easy to hatch.... But then egg color, I bet the color would still not be great at 3 gen back... hrm.....

Sorry, I'm off topic now. ll just give these chicks to Deanna and they will come back crele .
 
Id say we could outcross to Penns to keep egg color, but them that would be making the eggs harder to hatch! we could call it Ultra mega chicken but no one would ever get one!

I wonder what a nice black chicken that has fantasticaly easy hatching eggs would be.... This new roo has outrageous foot feathering so that would be easy to keep..
 
SilkiesForEver said:
Genetic question.
I put one of my Mille fleur D'uccle cockerels in with a white D'uccle hen. What do you think I will get? I'm a newbie when it comes to genetics.
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"Black patterned gold, incomplete columbian" according to the chicken color calculator
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zooweemama said:
Not well. Her eyes are incredibly swollen. She sneezes wetness for some reason and when I dip her beak in water she has to stretch her head farrrrr several times to swallow. I will be really surprised if she makes it another day. She looks really bad.
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Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear that. How tough. Sending good thoughts your way.
 
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I called our local wildlife rescue center and explained that I was worming them. They are thrilled to be getting the eggs.
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Thank you Dr. Ron, for the info. My flock has never been wormed, so I think Ivermectin will work if they have round worms. Now I understand why Dawg recommended using another type of wormer. Also glad to hear that the eggs do not have to go to waste. The animals love them!
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zooweemama said:
Not well. Her eyes are incredibly swollen. She sneezes wetness for some reason and when I dip her beak in water she has to stretch her head farrrrr several times to swallow. I will be really surprised if she makes it another day. She looks really bad.
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:( Im so sorry zoo. Hope she either makes it or has an easy transition.
 

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