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[threadgeek]

I found this article on chick mortality:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/39604/some-causes-of-early-chick-mortality

Halfway down the page it describes this and suggests whole/raw milk, :
"Coccidiosis and Necrotic Enteritis
Coccidiosis and Necrotic Enteritis are often confused, as the symptoms are similar. The symptoms include pasty butts, diarrhea, lifelessness, excess water consumption, and eating shavings. The difference will be blood spots in the manure. Blood spots are a clear indication of Coccidiosis. The good news is that both problems can be treated the same way. MANAGE YOUR LITTER! That was simple. Whenever you see clumped litter (generally around the feeder or waterers) you have harmful bacteria and/or coccidiosis. Actually there are several precautionary steps that can be taken. First, keep the clumped litter removed. Second, raise the feeders and waterers so that the lip of the feeder and waterers are level with the average birds back. Third, periodically apply thin layers of new shavings on top of the old. Fourth, maintain a good AIR FLOW.

Most occurrences of Coccidiosis and Enteritis will occur in the brooder. Generally symptoms will become noticeable around day 10. The mortality will peak between day 14 - day 21. Then the deaths will slowly reduce because the remaining chicks have built their own immunity to coccidiosis. If either of these problems have gotten out of hand and you are in the middle of a crisis, feed whole / raw milk to the chicks for 7 days. This will coat the stomach and soothe the pain so they can continue to eat and drink normally while the immune system kicks in and protects the chick. This is the easiest method."

However you didn't mention anything about diarrhea so I'm not sure if Balthazar is suffering from this. Stay strong little Balthazar!

 

[SilkieRose]

So happy for you and your grandma. Keep us updated!

Can you share pictures of the progress?

Dusty & Max are here!!!! Yay!!! Pics soon!

 

[ronott1]

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[lizanne]

Is it's crop empty? I saw a thread a while back about a Favorolle chick that acted a little like your, and had an impacted crop. Hope she feels better soon.

 

[skeeve101]

Thanks everyone for your answers. Here's a picture of the eggs...they are so adorable.




My two babies, Betty and Mrytle





I am looking for 2 more chickens, I am hoping for one silver polish and one more with the same pattern. Anyone got any suggestions? Silver Wyndotte? anything other breed recommended?

Steve

 

[Deerling]

Thank you so much to everyone who replied

Is Balthazar smaller than the other 2 week old chicks? Sometimes they do not thrive.

The thing to try is baby vitamin drops without iron if you have some. It is easy to get some from a store that is open this late. Very carefully give the chick a drop. Make sure it drinks it and does not breathe it. After the very small drop of the vitamin try to get it to drink. Give more in the morning and the evening tomorrow

Give all of them something like save a chick in their water. TSC and other feed stored carry it.

I hope She\he gets better!

I hadn't really noticed because we have so many different breeds and ages, but he's definitely one of the smallest (along with the partridge rocks). I think we have some Save-A-Chick still, I will put it in their water and get the vitamin drops in the morning. Thank you so much for your advice, Ron, I really appreciate it.

I found this article on chick mortality:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/39604/some-causes-of-early-chick-mortality

Halfway down the page it describes this and suggests whole/raw milk, :
"Coccidiosis and Necrotic Enteritis
Coccidiosis and Necrotic Enteritis are often confused, as the symptoms are similar. The symptoms include pasty butts, diarrhea, lifelessness, excess water consumption, and eating shavings. The difference will be blood spots in the manure. Blood spots are a clear indication of Coccidiosis. The good news is that both problems can be treated the same way. MANAGE YOUR LITTER! That was simple. Whenever you see clumped litter (generally around the feeder or waterers) you have harmful bacteria and/or coccidiosis. Actually there are several precautionary steps that can be taken. First, keep the clumped litter removed. Second, raise the feeders and waterers so that the lip of the feeder and waterers are level with the average birds back. Third, periodically apply thin layers of new shavings on top of the old. Fourth, maintain a good AIR FLOW.

Most occurrences of Coccidiosis and Enteritis will occur in the brooder. Generally symptoms will become noticeable around day 10. The mortality will peak between day 14 - day 21. Then the deaths will slowly reduce because the remaining chicks have built their own immunity to coccidiosis. If either of these problems have gotten out of hand and you are in the middle of a crisis, feed whole / raw milk to the chicks for 7 days. This will coat the stomach and soothe the pain so they can continue to eat and drink normally while the immune system kicks in and protects the chick. This is the easiest method."

However you didn't mention anything about diarrhea so I'm not sure if Balthazar is suffering from this. Stay strong little Balthazar!

Thank you so much for this info! That was so sweet of you. I don't think he is having abnormal poops, I haven't noticed any in the brooder, but I will keep my eye out.

Is it's crop empty? I saw a thread a while back about a Favorolle chick that acted a little like your, and had an impacted crop. Hope she feels better soon.

I felt his crop and it seems empty. I will keep an eye on him, though.

Thank you again to everyone! I'm so happy to be a part of this group. I know it sounds silly but he was one of the first ones we noticed (in the shipment of 27 chicks) and we're almost positive he's a roo, so we called him Balthazar, which is what we called our son (Malcolm) in utero before we picked a name. So he's got a special little fluffy place in our hearts.



This is him last week. Isn't he a cutie?

 

[HighNDryFarm]

Oh thank you for the photo!!! I had it set where I could only get 19! Saw your picture, took all the eggs out and counted evenly to split them up and I got 25!!!! Thank you! Thank you! How's this look?

They look good The only thing I see that you might want to change is to cut a piece of the extra sponge and put it at the ends of the rows where the eggs are tilted. I am always worried that my eggs will fall into the ones next to it if they are loose in there. Pretty bunch of eggs! Those Marans eggs are especially nice!

Thanks, I'm really excited about the Marans. I'm still looking for a BCM roo hatched from a really dark egg for them!

no, not particularly "looking" for anything -- was just watching everyone pecking around this morning and wondering what all the various crosses (SFH x marans, or sussex, or CLs...) might end up looking like! as i keep my fingers crossed for broodiness, i'm torn between hatching out some of their crosses vs. getting eggs of some additional varieties... so EE refers to any chicken that's not a pure-bred that lays colored eggs? i'd assumed all EEs were at least vaguely related to ameraucanas...

EEs from the feed store have been crossed with different breeds. EEs such as I have are a mix of different colored true Ameraucanas. My crosses at this time are pure buff Ameraucana hens, their 2 EE daughters (buff x wheaten) bred to a true blue wheaten Ameraucana rooster. The resulting offspring are non standard colored Ameraucanas so they are considered EEs.

So how do you know that you're actually purchasing Ameraucana chicks that are only not compliant colors apposed to what I sell, Various breed of hens covered by my Ameraucana roo? I didn't realize these pure Ameraucanas but off color were then EE's. Edited because I Ambien posted last night!

 

[Happy Chooks]

Deerling - you can also wet some chick feed with the vitamin water and make a mash and see if he eats that. Make sure he's drinking though! Good luck.

 

[SilkieRose]

Good morning!!

Here's Dusty!!!




Here's Max!!!




FLUFFY BUTTS!!!


So it was a long night!! Dusty hatched at 8:50pm & Max at 9:10pm.... They both looked good so I left them alone. I could still hear one peeping inside one of the blue shells when I went to bed; I thought she would surely be here this morning, but I couldn't hear anything this am so I pipped her shell & she must have quit during the night the other 2 hadn't even developed... I think the egg was so tight she couldn't get out. I should have helped her last night, but I didn't want to interfere I'm happy I got 2!!!!
Thanks for the cheering section, guys!!!

 

[chickee]

Thanks, I'm really excited about the Marans. I'm still looking for a BCM roo hatched from a really dark egg for them!
So how do you know that you're actually purchasing Ameraucana chicks that are only not compliant colors apposed to what I sell, Various breed of hens covered by my Ameraucana roo? I didn't realize these pure Ameraucanas but off color were then EE's.

Edited because I Ambien posted last night!

Hahaha

I was confused this morning when I saw your original post.

Shoot, my friend just sold 3 of her very nice BCM roosters. You should get in touch with her (Harris5 on BYC) and see if she is going to have anymore that she is willing to part with.

The best way to be sure you are getting a true Ameraucana is to educate yourself on the breed standard. Non-standard colors, green legs, ect. alert you to the fact that it is not a true Ameraucana, but in fact an EE. Other than that, deal with a well known breeder or someone who has purchased their birds from a well known breeder.

Because color mixes of true Ameraucanas produce non-standard colors, they are not considered a true Ameraucana, but because they still lay blue eggs, they are best described as Easter Eggers.