Good Monday morning! Love the pics that people have been posting especially the chick pics!
It seems to be constant drama around here. I have a BW Ameraucana hen who is a first time broody. 2 weeks ago, I gave her 5 fertile eggs from the farm and placed her nest box in a secluded area of our predator proof run. The very next day, my 2 year old granddaughter played with them and broke all but 2 of them. So I gave her 4 more which brought her total to 6. She has been doing a great job sitting on them and the granddaughter is not allowed off the patio without supervision. They are due to hatch next Sun or Mon so we candled them last night. The 2 Bresse eggs that Adel played with showed signs of early quitting and 2 others lit up like neon lights so not fertile. Cossette is down to 2 but I have a full incubator so may slip some chicks under her if hers don't hatch. I am going to rearrange the pens so she has a pen all to herself. I've not had much broody success this year so I'm holding my breath.
Good things are happening in my incubator! It was day 9 for the Pita Pinta eggs plus an assorted group of eggs from the farm so we went ahead and candled them last night while we were candling. The 14 PP eggs are going strong and look great!!!
21 of our farm eggs are also developing and we only pulled out 6 eggs (4 neon glowing and 2 early quitters). The farm chicks are going to be an interesting mix. There are a few Bresse eggs in there so they will be easy to tell what they are shortly after hatch but the rest of them are going to be fun to guess who's your mama/daddy. We have our laying and breeding hens in a temporary pen that was supposed to be separated from the boys. Our Langshan roos were way too amorous for the number of hens that we have so for the hens' safety we had to separate them a couple months ago. We are planning on decreasing the number of roos to 4 or 5 at the next processing day and then the hens can go back into the field with the boys. The pen that the girls are in has tall sides but is mostly open on the top. We have a group of cockerels that are mostly marans and CL mixes. Well, the CL mixes are great fliers and they managed to get in with the hens. The young boys are obviously doing their duty because most of the eggs are fertile!
On the home front, we have had a few cases of cocci in my 10-12 week old Bresse chicks. I treated all the outside brooder areas with amprolium and all chicks are better. But then it spread to my quail pens that are raised off the ground but above the aviary chick area. I lost one 4 1/2 month Bobwhite and thought that my dog had barked, scared her, and caused her to fly & break her neck. Two days later, there were 2 more dead and fluffed up quail in both pens. I started treating them with amprolium and the top pen seems to have recovered. The quail in the pen closest to the ground do not look good. Most of them are still fluffed up after 7 days of treatment, they aren't eating much, and I saw a bloody poo this morning. So, what do you recommend that I try now? I do have Sulmet. Should I switch to that and treat both pens? I am seriously thinking that I will not be continuing with quail.
Good Monday morning! Love the pics that people have been posting especially the chick pics!
It seems to be constant drama around here. I have a BW Ameraucana hen who is a first time broody. 2 weeks ago, I gave her 5 fertile eggs from the farm and placed her nest box in a secluded area of our predator proof run. The very next day, my 2 year old granddaughter played with them and broke all but 2 of them. So I gave her 4 more which brought her total to 6. She has been doing a great job sitting on them and the granddaughter is not allowed off the patio without supervision. They are due to hatch next Sun or Mon so we candled them last night. The 2 Bresse eggs that Adel played with showed signs of early quitting and 2 others lit up like neon lights so not fertile. Cossette is down to 2 but I have a full incubator so may slip some chicks under her if hers don't hatch. I am going to rearrange the pens so she has a pen all to herself. I've not had much broody success this year so I'm holding my breath.
Good things are happening in my incubator! It was day 9 for the Pita Pinta eggs plus an assorted group of eggs from the farm so we went ahead and candled them last night while we were candling. The 14 PP eggs are going strong and look great!!!
21 of our farm eggs are also developing and we only pulled out 6 eggs (4 neon glowing and 2 early quitters). The farm chicks are going to be an interesting mix. There are a few Bresse eggs in there so they will be easy to tell what they are shortly after hatch but the rest of them are going to be fun to guess who's your mama/daddy. We have our laying and breeding hens in a temporary pen that was supposed to be separated from the boys. Our Langshan roos were way too amorous for the number of hens that we have so for the hens' safety we had to separate them a couple months ago. We are planning on decreasing the number of roos to 4 or 5 at the next processing day and then the hens can go back into the field with the boys. The pen that the girls are in has tall sides but is mostly open on the top. We have a group of cockerels that are mostly marans and CL mixes. Well, the CL mixes are great fliers and they managed to get in with the hens. The young boys are obviously doing their duty because most of the eggs are fertile!
On the home front, we have had a few cases of cocci in my 10-12 week old Bresse chicks. I treated all the outside brooder areas with amprolium and all chicks are better. But then it spread to my quail pens that are raised off the ground but above the aviary chick area. I lost one 4 1/2 month Bobwhite and thought that my dog had barked, scared her, and caused her to fly & break her neck. Two days later, there were 2 more dead and fluffed up quail in both pens. I started treating them with amprolium and the top pen seems to have recovered. The quail in the pen closest to the ground do not look good. Most of them are still fluffed up after 7 days of treatment, they aren't eating much, and I saw a bloody poo this morning. So, what do you recommend that I try now? I do have Sulmet. Should I switch to that and treat both pens? I am seriously thinking that I will not be continuing with quail.
Well you have been busy! Broodies, incubators, etc.
I don't have quail so I can' say this with experience, but if it were me I would switch to the Sulmet for the lower pen. Its harsher but you are trying to save your birds. It sounds like your cocci isn't too bad on your chickens, but is being awful to your quail. After 7 days with no improvement.. well time for the bigger guns. I would definitely do the lower pen (closer to the source of infection), and keep a close eye on the upper one and only treat if you see the symptoms coming back. Can you scrub out the cages to remove any infected poop from the cage? Sometimes they get re-infected from their own carrier poops and that's what causes the overload.
I know there is a breeder out near you, I've been to her house. She wanted to buy a dorper ram from us.
We had an Akbash for a LGD. LGD are tough, you have to truly NOT raise them as a pet in order to make them most effective. Our girl, Sofi only wanted to be with people, to heck with those darn sheep. They are most effective when the predators are there, at night. They prefer to be sleeping in a comfortable house and if you make them a pet, that's where you want them.
LGD bark, A LOT, so you have to keep that in mind. They also do not respect normal fencing. They will always try to go under or over if they can. Sofi jumped over and or dug under at every chance. They just want to patrol their territory, which is always bigger than you managed to buy and fence. Sofi always came back after finishing her rounds, but a BIG dog can frighten the neighbors. You also have to make sure the neighbors know you have LGD on duty, or some well meaning person will take "care" of that dog in with your livestock for you. You also have to make sure they know any other dogs in the area, or they will consider them to be intruders and take care of the situation. Our girl didn't get on with a couple of our other dogs.
Having a LGD on five acres didn't work out for us. We were fully fenced with 4 foot fence. We ended up having to build an 8ft pen for her and then line the bottom edge with HUGE logs. She barked so much she had to be walked (she'd run off while you were looking at her off leash) into the garage when no one was home. The neighbors called A LOT.
It was our fault for raising her as a pet instead of keeping her as part of the flock. She originally came from a working 1,000 acre sheep ranch when she was a puppy. The rancher said we ruined her as a working dog
We ended up rehoming her to live with a retired police officer. She wanted her to live as a housedog in a single dog household and wanted her to be a companion when she was riding her horse. It ended up as a good placement.
Our best livestock protector has been our llama. Everyone else on our street has lost full grown sheep to coyotes. We've never even lost a lamb (knock on wood).
Good Monday morning! Love the pics that people have been posting especially the chick pics!
It seems to be constant drama around here. I have a BW Ameraucana hen who is a first time broody. 2 weeks ago, I gave her 5 fertile eggs from the farm and placed her nest box in a secluded area of our predator proof run. The very next day, my 2 year old granddaughter played with them and broke all but 2 of them. So I gave her 4 more which brought her total to 6. She has been doing a great job sitting on them and the granddaughter is not allowed off the patio without supervision. They are due to hatch next Sun or Mon so we candled them last night. The 2 Bresse eggs that Adel played with showed signs of early quitting and 2 others lit up like neon lights so not fertile. Cossette is down to 2 but I have a full incubator so may slip some chicks under her if hers don't hatch. I am going to rearrange the pens so she has a pen all to herself. I've not had much broody success this year so I'm holding my breath.
Good things are happening in my incubator! It was day 9 for the Pita Pinta eggs plus an assorted group of eggs from the farm so we went ahead and candled them last night while we were candling. The 14 PP eggs are going strong and look great!!!
21 of our farm eggs are also developing and we only pulled out 6 eggs (4 neon glowing and 2 early quitters). The farm chicks are going to be an interesting mix. There are a few Bresse eggs in there so they will be easy to tell what they are shortly after hatch but the rest of them are going to be fun to guess who's your mama/daddy. We have our laying and breeding hens in a temporary pen that was supposed to be separated from the boys. Our Langshan roos were way too amorous for the number of hens that we have so for the hens' safety we had to separate them a couple months ago. We are planning on decreasing the number of roos to 4 or 5 at the next processing day and then the hens can go back into the field with the boys. The pen that the girls are in has tall sides but is mostly open on the top. We have a group of cockerels that are mostly marans and CL mixes. Well, the CL mixes are great fliers and they managed to get in with the hens. The young boys are obviously doing their duty because most of the eggs are fertile!
On the home front, we have had a few cases of cocci in my 10-12 week old Bresse chicks. I treated all the outside brooder areas with amprolium and all chicks are better. But then it spread to my quail pens that are raised off the ground but above the aviary chick area. I lost one 4 1/2 month Bobwhite and thought that my dog had barked, scared her, and caused her to fly & break her neck. Two days later, there were 2 more dead and fluffed up quail in both pens. I started treating them with amprolium and the top pen seems to have recovered. The quail in the pen closest to the ground do not look good. Most of them are still fluffed up after 7 days of treatment, they aren't eating much, and I saw a bloody poo this morning. So, what do you recommend that I try now? I do have Sulmet. Should I switch to that and treat both pens? I am seriously thinking that I will not be continuing with quail.
Here in the Valley the Weather Report on the Radio said: chance of rain, High 101. We will see.....
It seems like there is a bad type of Cocci in your part of the North State, so you may need to use Sulmet. Do you thing the cocci vaccine might the future?
Well you have been busy! Broodies, incubators, etc.
I don't have quail so I can' say this with experience, but if it were me I would switch to the Sulmet for the lower pen. Its harsher but you are trying to save your birds. It sounds like your cocci isn't too bad on your chickens, but is being awful to your quail. After 7 days with no improvement.. well time for the bigger guns. I would definitely do the lower pen (closer to the source of infection), and keep a close eye on the upper one and only treat if you see the symptoms coming back. Can you scrub out the cages to remove any infected poop from the cage? Sometimes they get re-infected from their own carrier poops and that's what causes the overload.
Thank you for the advice! I was leaning towards doing just that and I appreciate the validation! Any recommendations on what to scrub the pens out with? I read somewhere that bleach doesn't work on cocci but ammonia does. I also have oxine and tektrol.
Thank you for the advice! I was leaning towards doing just that and I appreciate the validation! Any recommendations on what to scrub the pens out with? I read somewhere that bleach doesn't work on cocci but ammonia does. I also have oxine and tektrol.
Also, Dawg53 says to give them a half dose of corid after the treatment to help them build up immunity. Also give them B vitamins since the Corid causes a deficiency.
Thanks, Deb. I would rather have a llama than an LGD, and my uneducated mind imagines something which originally came fro Peru would be quite happy on this 8 acre parcel.
Friends have suggested a trip to the shelter to rescue a dog bigger than my doxies, but my idea of "rescuing" includes sleeping on the sofa....
Hi everyone! I've tried to catch up on the goings on but I'm still a week behind BUT, we just got back from a week in Fort Bragg and my mom was collecting eggs for me so I opened the cartons to check the eggs and imagine my surprise when I found THIS!
My very first egg from my very first Olive Egger! I was just looking at her this morning and didn't think she was red enough yet. I asked her when she was going to lay her first egg....she was probably wondering why I wasn't congratulating her! She's a beautiful Blue Marans/Silver Ameraucana. I'm SO happy with her color! My Blue Marans are Wade Jean I got from Papa Brooder. I had so much trouble getting here. I bought six and they had black mold and lost half of them within the first few weeks but ended up with 2 blue pullets and one beautiful blue cockerel. When they were finally able to join the flock the cockerel went missing one day so I ended up with just the two blue pullets. They lay a nicely dark egg for blue's. I am pleasantly surprised at the darkness of this egg coming from blue Marans.
Here's a little line up but the colors didn't come out very well. I also was treated to a couple of the fart eggs from the Polish pen. I've rarely been gifted with these tiny eggs so two within a few weeks is a treat but now I'm wondering who's doing it and why twice. Should I be worried or feel blessed?
Here's some pictures of the 4 month old Black Copper Marans cockerels from the extremely dark eggs I got from Deb and Sunny. They are really beautiful, sorry for the fuzzy pictures, they're quick little buggers! Anyway, I picked out the one I'm keeping and I think I have five for sale. If anyone is interested PM me. I also have a really nice baby that's about 9 weeks from my roo from Deb Black Copper Marans and one of the Blue Copper Marans .
Here's the eggs they came from...
Miss everyone....been really busy hauling kegs of beer and bottles of wine to our farmers market and Party in the Park. Now I'll go back and try to catch up...better then unpacking from a weeks vacation right?