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I used my little Canon camera and the high intensity ovascope.
That is so Awesome! You can see it so well!! I've been using my little old candler inside a TP roll tube, inside a closet. It HASNT been working. I love how in your video you can see EVERYTHING. Thank you for the video Ron!
 
That is so Awesome! You can see it so well!! I've been using my little old candler inside a TP roll tube, inside a closet. It HASNT been working. I love how in your video you can see EVERYTHING. Thank you for the video Ron!
I took the video 5 months ago and it was a Dorking egg from capayvalleychick's flock. The chick that hatched may be one that went to Tommysgirl's place.

Keeping the batteries fresh is important with the high intensity ovascope. I use enloop rechargeable batteries.
 
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Sorry, this will likely be a long post.

I grew up on 40 acres with 20 acres of Prune trees. We moved when I was 17 and we always had chickens. We also had Rabbits when I was very young, Pigs and Cows\steers for meat. One of my first chores was collecting the eggs and then getting them their food and water. It was a huge shock when we had to move to the City and I had to start eating store eggs...Gross(it was the 1970s). In all of those years growing up there was never any talk of Egg eating hens.

When I was in my 20s, my Father in law bought a place near us that had about 15 acres with a pasture and an Olive grove. The place came with chickens and my Father in Law was old school--he did not feed them anything but the odd bit of scratch. He started finding broken eggs and would shoot any hen that he found with egg on her beak. That one was a dreaded Egg Eater! I could not convince him to stop. He went on vacation and we took care of the place for a month. I picked up some chicken layer and got them laying regularly again. That lasted until they returned from vacation.

The hens lasted another several months and then he killed the last of the Dreaded Egg Eaters.....
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Poor hens!

Egg eating hens are so rare that most will never have one. Eggs will break and the hens will eat them. It is normal hen behavior to peck an egg to see if it is viable for hatching. If it breaks she will eat it. Hens close enough will eat it too.

The point to all of this is that 99plus% of egg eating is an indication that something is wrong with the egg. Correct the problem and there will be no more eggs eaten.

There will be broken eggs and Pullets\hens just starting back to laying or reaching point of lay will have eggs that are soft shelled or broken. When this happens it is normal for them to eat the egg.

To correct egg shell problems:

Give them Calcium(adding food grade Diatomaceous earth to feed is a good way to add calcium--then give them free choice oyster shell after the eggs are hard again)
Check for Mites, lice and worms
Give them a good pro biotic every couple of weeks
Give them vitamins every week of so

Cheers!

I like your story, and it is funny how some people just refuse to change what they think they know. Speaking of food, the more I research the King Freedom the more I like it. The birds seem to do better on it and they like it better.

I got mine through Brinsea. I believe that is what I paid. When pricing Brinsea's products I have found that by buying them direct it is cheaper than through 2nd party sellers
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I need to buy their high intensity Ova Scope (I have been borrowing a friends) and Brinsea has it for cheaper than anywhere else.

I also incubate in my Octagon and hatch in my Genesis 1588. The Octagons are tight for hatching, but I will hatch in it if I am doing a small batch of eggs or the eggs were expensive and I want the best results possible.
Well it seems that I already have my hatcher...... the Geneisis 1588, now all I need is the Brinsea.
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I think pam has oes not ees. I have a few ees that have just started laying but im too far.

Sandhill might be ok if you are willing to get anything that hatches that week I do not know one single oerson who has gotten what they ordered when they ordered it however.

If you want eating boys get breese!!! They are fast growers and the best tasting chicken out there. They do have goopy skin however.
Soooooo what is goopy skin?


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I used my little Canon camera and the high intensity ovascope.
That is a great video! Makes me want to hatch some eggs. Do you happen to recall if they say what the Lumens are on the Ovascope?
 
I like your story, and it is funny how some people just refuse to change what they think they know. Speaking of food, the more I research the King Freedom the more I like it. The birds seem to do better on it and they like it better.

Well it seems that I already have my hatcher...... the Geneisis 1588, now all I need is the Brinsea.
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Soooooo what is goopy skin?


That is a great video! Makes me want to hatch some eggs. Do you happen to recall if they say what the Lumens are on the Ovascope?
Breese skin is thicker then most other chickens ( but they are very easy to pluck) It is not considered a roasting chicken, but a braising/basting/salt crust chicken. In order to get it to be yummy and crispy you have to pay attention to it. Otherwise its goopy.

People roast them all the time and enjoy them, but its not when they are at their best.

So after 2 years of having 1/2 counters i'm getting my counters put in Tuesday! The bad news is I have to waterlox the area the sink is going a few more times so its a 2 part deal, leaving me no sink for Thanksgiving. Its gonna be interesting!
 
Debs_flock, Jason and others have ordered from Sandhill. Order asap and expect to wait. It seems like they have a tendency to send substitutes too.

I bet Deb has some stories to share.


SandHill is a preservation hatchery--Their stock is at best OK.

Thank you Ron. I really appreciate your input and your willingness to share it so very much. I am curious how SH would compare to say Murary Mc Murray or MPC as far as quality. Since the two breeds I am planning to focus on (not for showing or breeding to SOP but for the heck of it) are the Dels and the New Hampshires and I have Nor Cal contacts for both I don't have plans to add those from SH so I am feeling like as long as the other birds arrive healthy and hardy and I can eat them I am OK with type being a bit off.

I am thinking of Sand Hill for a couple of reasons...#1 I would be getting from them what I couldn't find hatching eggs for or get from you guys...ie LF frizzles. #2 I like the idea of supporting their preservation efforts, #3 I saw a video on big hatcheries that vent sex day-olds and it made me sad so I want to only get SR and I wanted to go with a hatchery that didn't vent sex at all.

I know that the decision to order from them is based on sentiment more than anything
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but since these won't be breeders for me...well I just figured why not
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Under these circumstances, how concerned should I be about quality?
 
I like your story, and it is funny how some people just refuse to change what they think they know. Speaking of food, the more I research the King Freedom the more I like it. The birds seem to do better on it and they like it better.

Well it seems that I already have my hatcher...... the Geneisis 1588, now all I need is the Brinsea.
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That is a great video! Makes me want to hatch some eggs. Do you happen to recall if they say what the Lumens are on the Ovascope?
I am about to call to see if I can get the Freedom starter\grower and layer pellets this week. I sure hope so!

I cannot find the lumens on the ova scope. It is very bright though and the LED bulbs are dedicated--solered in--to make sure nothing is lost with dirty contacts.

Yes, hatch! Join the NYD Hatch a Long!

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/835798/5th-annual-byc-new-years-day-2014-hatch-a-long
 
Thank you Ron. I really appreciate your input and your willingness to share it so very much. I am curious how SH would compare to say Murary Mc Murray or MPC as far as quality. Since the two breeds I am planning to focus on (not for showing or breeding to SOP but for the heck of it) are the Dels and the New Hampshires and I have Nor Cal contacts for both I don't have plans to add those from SH so I am feeling like as long as the other birds arrive healthy and hardy and I can eat them I am OK with type being a bit off.

I am thinking of Sand Hill for a couple of reasons...#1 I would be getting from them what I couldn't find hatching eggs for or get from you guys...ie LF frizzles. #2 I like the idea of supporting their preservation efforts, #3 I saw a video on big hatcheries that vent sex day-olds and it made me sad so I want to only get SR and I wanted to go with a hatchery that didn't vent sex at all.

I know that the decision to order from them is based on sentiment more than anything
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but since these won't be breeders for me...well I just figured why not
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Under these circumstances, how concerned should I be about quality?
SandHill has some very rare breeds and the Genetics are there. Some are so rare that they are pretty much the only source.

Don't worry too much about quality--They will work out for you.
 
Breese skin is thicker then most other chickens ( but they are very easy to pluck) It is not considered a roasting chicken, but a braising/basting/salt crust chicken. In order to get it to be yummy and crispy you have to pay attention to it. Otherwise its goopy.

People roast them all the time and enjoy them, but its not when they are at their best.

So after 2 years of having 1/2 counters i'm getting my counters put in Tuesday! The bad news is I have to waterlox the area the sink is going a few more times so its a 2 part deal, leaving me no sink for Thanksgiving. Its gonna be interesting!
I would bet that goopy skin is why they taste so good......

I would really love to see a picture of the color of your counters. I Googled images of stained IKEA counters and they can be really pretty.

Does the geiger counter comment apply to Quarts too? I don't like it as well as Granite but I don't really want to glow in the dark. One funny thought though is that Penryn was basically founded because of the granite quarry they started here in the 1800's. There is a pile of granite in this area.

Edit: Totally forgot to ask how your quail are laying this time of year? Do you have a list for jumbo Cots eggs started for Spring? I need to be on your list.
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Or MAYBE if you have any for the New Year's Day Hatch Along with Ron!

Thank you Ron. I really appreciate your input and your willingness to share it so very much. I am curious how SH would compare to say Murary Mc Murray or MPC as far as quality. Since the two breeds I am planning to focus on (not for showing or breeding to SOP but for the heck of it) are the Dels and the New Hampshires and I have Nor Cal contacts for both I don't have plans to add those from SH so I am feeling like as long as the other birds arrive healthy and hardy and I can eat them I am OK with type being a bit off.

I am thinking of Sand Hill for a couple of reasons...#1 I would be getting from them what I couldn't find hatching eggs for or get from you guys...ie LF frizzles. #2 I like the idea of supporting their preservation efforts, #3 I saw a video on big hatcheries that vent sex day-olds and it made me sad so I want to only get SR and I wanted to go with a hatchery that didn't vent sex at all.

I know that the decision to order from them is based on sentiment more than anything
hide.gif
but since these won't be breeders for me...well I just figured why not
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Under these circumstances, how concerned should I be about quality?
Well I do know that MPC gets their stock in our area from someone in Ohio I think. Since you want straight run there would be no point in going through MPC, since their main claim to fame is the small order pullet only options. Unless of course there is something on there you can't find on the Ohio hatchery website..... I am stalling here waiting for the name of it to come to me.

Their stock quality was fine. All except for the Silkies. They were disappointing in quality but laid pretty well. 3 eggs a week and the buff one wasn't broody but the black one was ONLY broody.

SO, after all that if you chose to go with that Ohio hatchery, (I think it is Ohio), then I would be happy to get a couple of their Red Star pullets to fill out your order! That is were I got my last one and she was awesome friendly and laid giant eggs 29 days a month.. Kept everyone in line in a gentle way. Loved her! I will post again when my memory kicks in with the name.
 
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