I think Papa Brooders kids were in 4-H, he may have the address. 4-H is sponsor by the university system, most counties have a local office that coordinates events like the fair.
California - Northern
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Oh, I found the phone number and address on their website
http://ceshasta.ucanr.edu/4-H_Program/
I was just wondering what you meant by their "extension office"
If i can im gonna. try the grocerey store in quincy otherwise if anyone is near quincy i can meet u at the fairgrounds anytime before noon i have a 4-H we are doing during the childtrns fair
Well, broached the topic of brooding some chicks with my husband last night, but haven't heard anything yet (I actually broke down and emailed him--he works graveyard, but only for just under 2 more weeks
and I'm currently doing online test scoring when I'm home from work this month until 9 pm, so we're really two ships passing lately...). Of course, if I could get my hands on an incubator to borrow, 'twould be much simpler (and cheaper!) to get hatching eggs instead of chicks. I can't justify buying or making an incubator, though--heck, I'm planning on doing the heating pad heat plate mostly because I can easily repurpose a heating pad.
Oo, actually, I managed to ask him if he'd thought about that email, and he thinks it sounds like a cool idea
He even asked if I thought we could make money hatching out and selling chicks. So maybe I'll look at the make-your-own incubators... But managing to borrow for a first go-round would be good. Hm, redoing the not-a-greenhouse got me into woodworking, maybe incubators can get me into simple electrical work? Electricity scares me a bit, but more in a healthy-respect way, not a terrified way (and, hey, I was terrified of the circular saw, and now it's my favorite thing).
Oo, actually, I managed to ask him if he'd thought about that email, and he thinks it sounds like a cool idea
I read that it's more common in incubated eggs. I also think that the chance of them getting an infection increases if you help the out of the shell. Read this:
Mushy Chick Disease ~ Yolk Sack infection ~ OMPHALITIS
By: Sally Sunshine
Posted 1/3/13 •Last updated a few days ago •12,628 views •16 comments
Omphalitis
Also known as
Mushy Chick Disease
&
Yolk Sack infection
Omphalitis is a common cause of death in chicks during the first week of life and most common with artificially hatched chicks. It is a bacterial infection of the yolk sac. Various bacteria may be involved in yolk sack infection,
E.coli, Staphylococci, Proteus, Clostridia, fecalis and Pseudomonas.
Understanding the yolk sack
Growth of a chick begins in the small fertilized area at the top of the yolk. A network of blood vessels begins to develop spreading from the embryo out over the yolk. The yolk sac is attached to the chick's navel and the chick draws nourishment from it, producing an enzyme that changes the yolk material so that it can be used as a food by the developing embryo. As the chick hatches any remaining unused yolk is drawn into the chick’s abdomen or “navel”. It will supply nourishment for the chicks first few days after hatching.
CAUSES
~ Egg & Embryo ~
Omphalitis may be caused by a bacterium that enters through the porous egg shell. Unfortunately, incubation conditions are ideal for breeding bacteria as well as incubating eggs. BEWARE the egg that explodes in the hatching tray! This easily contaminates other eggs.
~ Chick ~
As the chick is hatching its exposed umbilicus (navel) can easily be infected by bacteria. More susceptible are those newly hatched chicks resting on dirty eggs, un-sanitized incubators, and also with assisted hatching. A chick removed from the incubator prior to complete healing of the navel is also giving a chance of infection in the brooder.
Symptoms
The chicks become lethargic and die quickly either during incubation or after hatching, with most dying within 48 hours from the infection. Symptoms may VARY depending on bacteria and can include poorly healed, open navels or enlarged navels, subcutaneous edema (large fluid volume in the abdomen), bluish color of the abdominal muscles and often unabsorbed yolk materials that could even smell putrid. Often yolks are ruptured and peritonitis (inflammation of the inner wall of the abdomen) is common. Chicks have little interest in food and water and are attracted to heat. Mortality often begins at hatching and can continue for 10/14 more days.
subcutaneous edema (large fluid volume in the abdomen)
unhealed navel after yolk sack rupture below
Below is an unhealed OPEN Navel
Below is an unhealed OPEN Navel
Below is an image of a duckling's belly with an infected navel.
It hatched with an unabsorbed yolk, and was about a week old in the pic.
The duckling DID survive, and is a loudmouth little call duck juvenile.
Treatments
There is no specific treatment for omphalitis. Most affected birds die.
Prevention is the best method.
A few suggestions for treatment are to clean the navel area with iodine several times a day. I have also used Veterycin gel spray. Freshen up water with multi vitamins or Save-A-Chick daily. Watch brooder temperatures as Chilling & overheating may increase losses at this stage. Isolate chick from others to prevent spread of bacteria and avoid pecking injuries.
Keep the brooder as clean and fresh as possible. Keep in mind that it may be wiser to humanely destroy the more severely affected chicks.
Prevention
The disease is prevented by careful control of temperature, humidity, and sanitation in the incubator and Hen House! Keep the Coop and nesting boxes clean and dry. Set only fresh, clean, non-porous and uncracked eggs. If it is necessary to set dirty eggs, they should be kept away from clean eggs. Gentle sanitizers are available for cleaning dirty eggs. Always wash hands, especially when turning! ALWAYS disinfect incubators and equipment before AND after use!
Also known as
Mushy Chick Disease
&
Yolk Sack infection
Omphalitis is a common cause of death in chicks during the first week of life and most common with artificially hatched chicks. It is a bacterial infection of the yolk sac. Various bacteria may be involved in yolk sack infection,
E.coli, Staphylococci, Proteus, Clostridia, fecalis and Pseudomonas.
Understanding the yolk sack
Growth of a chick begins in the small fertilized area at the top of the yolk. A network of blood vessels begins to develop spreading from the embryo out over the yolk. The yolk sac is attached to the chick's navel and the chick draws nourishment from it, producing an enzyme that changes the yolk material so that it can be used as a food by the developing embryo. As the chick hatches any remaining unused yolk is drawn into the chick’s abdomen or “navel”. It will supply nourishment for the chicks first few days after hatching.
CAUSES
~ Egg & Embryo ~
Omphalitis may be caused by a bacterium that enters through the porous egg shell. Unfortunately, incubation conditions are ideal for breeding bacteria as well as incubating eggs. BEWARE the egg that explodes in the hatching tray! This easily contaminates other eggs.
~ Chick ~
As the chick is hatching its exposed umbilicus (navel) can easily be infected by bacteria. More susceptible are those newly hatched chicks resting on dirty eggs, un-sanitized incubators, and also with assisted hatching. A chick removed from the incubator prior to complete healing of the navel is also giving a chance of infection in the brooder.
Symptoms
The chicks become lethargic and die quickly either during incubation or after hatching, with most dying within 48 hours from the infection. Symptoms may VARY depending on bacteria and can include poorly healed, open navels or enlarged navels, subcutaneous edema (large fluid volume in the abdomen), bluish color of the abdominal muscles and often unabsorbed yolk materials that could even smell putrid. Often yolks are ruptured and peritonitis (inflammation of the inner wall of the abdomen) is common. Chicks have little interest in food and water and are attracted to heat. Mortality often begins at hatching and can continue for 10/14 more days.
subcutaneous edema (large fluid volume in the abdomen)
unhealed navel after yolk sack rupture below
Below is an unhealed OPEN Navel
Below is an unhealed OPEN Navel
Below is an image of a duckling's belly with an infected navel.
It hatched with an unabsorbed yolk, and was about a week old in the pic.
The duckling DID survive, and is a loudmouth little call duck juvenile.
Treatments
There is no specific treatment for omphalitis. Most affected birds die.
Prevention is the best method.
A few suggestions for treatment are to clean the navel area with iodine several times a day. I have also used Veterycin gel spray. Freshen up water with multi vitamins or Save-A-Chick daily. Watch brooder temperatures as Chilling & overheating may increase losses at this stage. Isolate chick from others to prevent spread of bacteria and avoid pecking injuries.
Keep the brooder as clean and fresh as possible. Keep in mind that it may be wiser to humanely destroy the more severely affected chicks.
Prevention
The disease is prevented by careful control of temperature, humidity, and sanitation in the incubator and Hen House! Keep the Coop and nesting boxes clean and dry. Set only fresh, clean, non-porous and uncracked eggs. If it is necessary to set dirty eggs, they should be kept away from clean eggs. Gentle sanitizers are available for cleaning dirty eggs. Always wash hands, especially when turning! ALWAYS disinfect incubators and equipment before AND after use!
A BIG Thank you to all of the image contributors for this Article.
Disclaimer: Please note this information is offered as friendly advice only and, whilst I have made every effort to ensure it is accurate, I can not be held responsible if it proves not to be useful in your case!
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Regarding yolk scak infections... I lost a couple ducklings to it (E. coli confirmed by UCD), so now if I have one that looks "iffy", it gets a tiny drop of Baytril twice a day for a few days.
http://keep-hens-raise-chickens.com/health/yolk-sac-infection-mushy-chick-disease
-Kathy
http://keep-hens-raise-chickens.com/health/yolk-sac-infection-mushy-chick-disease
-Kathy
I have a missing hen.
I've been glued to the computer until after dark with my temporary online job. My older daughter's usually good about locking the chickens up if we've let them out. I called her in for dinner around 7ish, and didn't even think about the fact that she didn't go out again after. I was getting something out of the garage, and noticed that it hadn't been closed yet. I closed it, and then saw Omelette on the bookcase I'm making. I reopened the garage, and took her to the coop, telling her she was silly. When I opened the door, it hit a chicken (I hadn't bothered with a flashlight, and the bottom of the door's in shadow). I tossed Omelette in, then fetched a flashlight. Curry and Fritatta were on the step, and Quiche was on a bag of recycling. I got them all on the roost, but Souffle wasn't there. We'd had neighbor kids over, so I checked the pen, too--only the new girls in there. I looked in the garage, in all the sheds, in all the trees, under everything... I'm hoping I just missed a hiding spot, and that Souffle will be chowing down on grass and drinking out of the fish pond when I get up tomorrow.
I've been glued to the computer until after dark with my temporary online job. My older daughter's usually good about locking the chickens up if we've let them out. I called her in for dinner around 7ish, and didn't even think about the fact that she didn't go out again after. I was getting something out of the garage, and noticed that it hadn't been closed yet. I closed it, and then saw Omelette on the bookcase I'm making. I reopened the garage, and took her to the coop, telling her she was silly. When I opened the door, it hit a chicken (I hadn't bothered with a flashlight, and the bottom of the door's in shadow). I tossed Omelette in, then fetched a flashlight. Curry and Fritatta were on the step, and Quiche was on a bag of recycling. I got them all on the roost, but Souffle wasn't there. We'd had neighbor kids over, so I checked the pen, too--only the new girls in there. I looked in the garage, in all the sheds, in all the trees, under everything... I'm hoping I just missed a hiding spot, and that Souffle will be chowing down on grass and drinking out of the fish pond when I get up tomorrow.
Darn. I hope you find her in the morning.
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These were shipped eggs. I did wash the bator with Oxine before the next hatch. I often dip the eggs in Oxine solution. I do NOT rub them. I figure the Oxine will help kill bacteria. Those shipped eggs I did not dip. Won't make that mistake again. Oh, I do hope I killed all the bacteria before the next batch was set! I just had 2 dozen hatch from the next batch.
So if one hatched eggs that had the bacteria present, it stands to reason that hatch mates could also get the bacteria. Very sad. There were 4 Brabanters and only 1 chick made it. The other 3 died. Presumably from the same thing. Then a SFH died but it was a hatch mate. Thinking the BBR eggs were most likely the culprit. Rather afraid to order more from the same person.
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Posted 1/3/13 •Last updated a few days ago •12,628 views •16 commentsI read that it's more common in incubated eggs. I also think that the chance of them getting an infection increases if you help the out of the shell. Raed this:
Mushy Chick Disease ~ Yolk Sack infection ~ OMPHALITIS
By: Sally Sunshine
Omphalitis
Also known as
Mushy Chick Disease
&
Yolk Sack infection
Omphalitis is a common cause of death in chicks during the first week of life and most common with artificially hatched chicks. It is a bacterial infection of the yolk sac. Various bacteria may be involved in yolk sack infection,
E.coli, Staphylococci, Proteus, Clostridia, fecalis and Pseudomonas.
Understanding the yolk sack
Growth of a chick begins in the small fertilized area at the top of the yolk. A network of blood vessels begins to develop spreading from the embryo out over the yolk. The yolk sac is attached to the chick's navel and the chick draws nourishment from it, producing an enzyme that changes the yolk material so that it can be used as a food by the developing embryo. As the chick hatches any remaining unused yolk is drawn into the chick’s abdomen or “navel”. It will supply nourishment for the chicks first few days after hatching.
CAUSES
~ Egg & Embryo ~
Omphalitis may be caused by a bacterium that enters through the porous egg shell. Unfortunately, incubation conditions are ideal for breeding bacteria as well as incubating eggs. BEWARE the egg that explodes in the hatching tray! This easily contaminates other eggs.
~ Chick ~
As the chick is hatching its exposed umbilicus (navel) can easily be infected by bacteria. More susceptible are those newly hatched chicks resting on dirty eggs, un-sanitized incubators, and also with assisted hatching. A chick removed from the incubator prior to complete healing of the navel is also giving a chance of infection in the brooder.
Symptoms
The chicks become lethargic and die quickly either during incubation or after hatching, with most dying within 48 hours from the infection. Symptoms may VARY depending on bacteria and can include poorly healed, open navels or enlarged navels, subcutaneous edema (large fluid volume in the abdomen), bluish color of the abdominal muscles and often unabsorbed yolk materials that could even smell putrid. Often yolks are ruptured and peritonitis (inflammation of the inner wall of the abdomen) is common. Chicks have little interest in food and water and are attracted to heat. Mortality often begins at hatching and can continue for 10/14 more days.
subcutaneous edema (large fluid volume in the abdomen)
unhealed navel after yolk sack rupture below
Below is an unhealed OPEN Navel
Below is an unhealed OPEN Navel
Below is an image of a duckling's belly with an infected navel.
It hatched with an unabsorbed yolk, and was about a week old in the pic.
The duckling DID survive, and is a loudmouth little call duck juvenile.
Treatments
There is no specific treatment for omphalitis. Most affected birds die.
Prevention is the best method.
A few suggestions for treatment are to clean the navel area with iodine several times a day. I have also used Veterycin gel spray. Freshen up water with multi vitamins or Save-A-Chick daily. Watch brooder temperatures as Chilling & overheating may increase losses at this stage. Isolate chick from others to prevent spread of bacteria and avoid pecking injuries.
Keep the brooder as clean and fresh as possible. Keep in mind that it may be wiser to humanely destroy the more severely affected chicks.
Prevention
The disease is prevented by careful control of temperature, humidity, and sanitation in the incubator and Hen House! Keep the Coop and nesting boxes clean and dry. Set only fresh, clean, non-porous and uncracked eggs. If it is necessary to set dirty eggs, they should be kept away from clean eggs. Gentle sanitizers are available for cleaning dirty eggs. Always wash hands, especially when turning! ALWAYS disinfect incubators and equipment before AND after use!
Also known as
Mushy Chick Disease
&
Yolk Sack infection
Omphalitis is a common cause of death in chicks during the first week of life and most common with artificially hatched chicks. It is a bacterial infection of the yolk sac. Various bacteria may be involved in yolk sack infection,
E.coli, Staphylococci, Proteus, Clostridia, fecalis and Pseudomonas.
Understanding the yolk sack
Growth of a chick begins in the small fertilized area at the top of the yolk. A network of blood vessels begins to develop spreading from the embryo out over the yolk. The yolk sac is attached to the chick's navel and the chick draws nourishment from it, producing an enzyme that changes the yolk material so that it can be used as a food by the developing embryo. As the chick hatches any remaining unused yolk is drawn into the chick’s abdomen or “navel”. It will supply nourishment for the chicks first few days after hatching.
CAUSES
~ Egg & Embryo ~
Omphalitis may be caused by a bacterium that enters through the porous egg shell. Unfortunately, incubation conditions are ideal for breeding bacteria as well as incubating eggs. BEWARE the egg that explodes in the hatching tray! This easily contaminates other eggs.
~ Chick ~
As the chick is hatching its exposed umbilicus (navel) can easily be infected by bacteria. More susceptible are those newly hatched chicks resting on dirty eggs, un-sanitized incubators, and also with assisted hatching. A chick removed from the incubator prior to complete healing of the navel is also giving a chance of infection in the brooder.
Symptoms
The chicks become lethargic and die quickly either during incubation or after hatching, with most dying within 48 hours from the infection. Symptoms may VARY depending on bacteria and can include poorly healed, open navels or enlarged navels, subcutaneous edema (large fluid volume in the abdomen), bluish color of the abdominal muscles and often unabsorbed yolk materials that could even smell putrid. Often yolks are ruptured and peritonitis (inflammation of the inner wall of the abdomen) is common. Chicks have little interest in food and water and are attracted to heat. Mortality often begins at hatching and can continue for 10/14 more days.
subcutaneous edema (large fluid volume in the abdomen)
unhealed navel after yolk sack rupture below
Below is an unhealed OPEN Navel
Below is an unhealed OPEN Navel
Below is an image of a duckling's belly with an infected navel.
It hatched with an unabsorbed yolk, and was about a week old in the pic.
The duckling DID survive, and is a loudmouth little call duck juvenile.
Treatments
There is no specific treatment for omphalitis. Most affected birds die.
Prevention is the best method.
A few suggestions for treatment are to clean the navel area with iodine several times a day. I have also used Veterycin gel spray. Freshen up water with multi vitamins or Save-A-Chick daily. Watch brooder temperatures as Chilling & overheating may increase losses at this stage. Isolate chick from others to prevent spread of bacteria and avoid pecking injuries.
Keep the brooder as clean and fresh as possible. Keep in mind that it may be wiser to humanely destroy the more severely affected chicks.
Prevention
The disease is prevented by careful control of temperature, humidity, and sanitation in the incubator and Hen House! Keep the Coop and nesting boxes clean and dry. Set only fresh, clean, non-porous and uncracked eggs. If it is necessary to set dirty eggs, they should be kept away from clean eggs. Gentle sanitizers are available for cleaning dirty eggs. Always wash hands, especially when turning! ALWAYS disinfect incubators and equipment before AND after use!
A BIG Thank you to all of the image contributors for this Article.
Disclaimer: Please note this information is offered as friendly advice only and, whilst I have made every effort to ensure it is accurate, I can not be held responsible if it proves not to be useful in your case!
-
NO STRAIN Hot Water EASY Fermented Feed Instructions w/Video!
Processing Support Group ~ Sally Sunshine's Chickens ~ CoolerBATOR ~ "Nasty Chicken Butt"
Hatching 101 ~ Guide to ASSISTED Hatching ~ Mushy Chick Disease ~ Duckling Care ~ HAWKS OH MY!
Pallet Hinkel Haus ~ Hatched ~ PINTEREST Chickens
Blue / Partridge Brahma Hatching Eggs from our 5 hens (3 Blue) and 2 BLUE roosters.
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